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My personal vow regarding Josh Allen: Who is with me

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Have faith. This kid will take us there. Super Bowl within 4 years. Enjoy the journey.

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3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

You cut your steak with a light sabre don’t you.

 

Butter knife, actually.

6 minutes ago, teef said:

was it on a t-shirt?  

 

Just my wedding vows 

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2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Butter knife, actually.

 

Classic Rufio.

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12 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:

I will meet you half way.  I promise not get too low when our rookie QB makes rookie mistakes, even when they cost us wins.  However...

 

When Josh Allen lights it up and carries our team on his back to victory, I am going to lose my s#!+ with joy and declare Josh the saviour that the prophets have talked about.

Sounds reasonable, we cant have that here

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8 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Classic Rufio.

i like us.

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51 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

What i realize is you have poor reading comprehension/cognitive skills.

 

Letting him play now behind that line he has an excellent change of getting hurt, i dont see as taking a beating is great for his long term development.  If Anderson is better he should be benched.  If, as I wrote, Allen loses his self confidence because of the benching (that is what i was rerferring to as pscyholoigcally frail), then he likely is not our future.

 

I also realize i accidentally recommended.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my reading skills....you may have meant it in a way that you are not stating it?

 

You are saying he should be pulled because he might be to mentally fragile to handle getting the crap beat out of him his rookie season and we should put in the vet (who honestly was not very good)

 

First of all.....the rookie has shown to be anything but mentally fragile in his football career.....being told no everywhere he went....the whole 1000 letters to colleges thing.....then getting the crap kicked out of him at Univ of Wyoming.  

 

Second....pulling him will only take away reps from him at this point in favor of a team that is also not very good.....so what would be the point of that....let him take his lumps and get him help next season...the vet qb we just signed was someone to be a buffer for him on the sideline, in practice, and in the QB room.....it really is that simple.

3 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

Sounds reasonable, we cant have that here

Honestly this is exactly what I expect out of the QB this year...there will be hills and valleys

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Goodness gracious.  Did we really need this?

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1 hour ago, Like A Mofo said:

Dear Social Media and message board watchers,

 

I as a Buffalo Bills fan will refrain from making a definitive conclusion as to Josh Allen and if he 'is the answer' at QB for the long term for the Buffalo Bills for the rest of the season. After reviewing mine and other opinions over the weeks, I realize that the knee jerk reactions are not needed during this time. I will allow time for Josh to develop. I will stay even keel if Allen has a great game or a bad game in 2018. I will tell myself over and over that 2019 will bring in an infusion of talent which can help the young signal caller. I will remind myself that quarterbacks can take different amounts of time to develop.

 

I sign off on this vow the rest of the year, for my betterment as a fan of this team. Who is with me?

 

Signed,

 

Like A Mofo

Raw QB with a ton of talent/upside- here here, I shall withhold judgement as well- Cheers! 

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1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said:

I don't think we'll know anything for sure until 2020 to be honest.   I can't sit here and say confidently that in the offseason we will get better OL and better WRs.    We may roll with what we have on the line as long as castillo is here for all I know.   

 

I can't judge Allen until he's had significant time in the saddle with WRs who can get open and catch and a line that can pickup a blitz.   

Unless we surround him with a good OL and playmakers in the offseason and he comes out and goes 16-0 while winning mvp!!  At that point, I’ll be sure he’s our QB of the future 

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I want to and I think I will give him 2 years.  But as someone who I think was extremely flawed and picked by a regime that makes a lot of bad offensive decisions, it’s hard to blindly trust them.

 

i hate this feeling.  But as someone who supported EJ, JP, and Trent until the end and overlooked many warning signs, when is it enough time?

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1 hour ago, Like A Mofo said:

Dear Social Media and message board watchers,

 

I as a Buffalo Bills fan will refrain from making a definitive conclusion as to Josh Allen and if he 'is the answer' at QB for the long term for the Buffalo Bills for the rest of the season. After reviewing mine and other opinions over the weeks, I realize that the knee jerk reactions are not needed during this time. I will allow time for Josh to develop. I will stay even keel if Allen has a great game or a bad game in 2018. I will tell myself over and over that 2019 will bring in an infusion of talent which can help the young signal caller. I will remind myself that quarterbacks can take different amounts of time to develop.

 

I sign off on this vow the rest of the year, for my betterment as a fan of this team. Who is with me?

 

Signed,

 

Like A Mofo

 

Been there.

 

 

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So far, he's been exactly the QB he was in college, with the same pluses and minuses.

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I'm fine with the vow or whatever.  Just show me a few highlight reel plays before the end of the season that are from passing.  That's all I ask.  I don't want his best plays to be running because that's not sustainable or showing NFL QB development.

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2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I'm fine with the vow or whatever.  Just show me a few highlight reel plays before the end of the season that are from passing.  That's all I ask.  I don't want his best plays to be running because that's not sustainable or showing NFL QB development.

Agreed.....

 

Although he would already have some if Kelvin Benjamin could hang onto a fricken ball

 

What he he dropped like 3 TD's so far?

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Unfortunately, the ones we REALLY need to abide by this "contract" won't read the thread, won't agree, or will simply just continue bashing him every time he throws an errant pass (or throws a completion that was "too low", or gets sacked, or smiles, or inhales, etc.)

 

 

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I’m with ya.  I didn’t want Josh Allen.  Hated the pick at the time.  Loving the pick after a the Viking games. Hated the pick after watching him play at a Lambeau.    It’s a week to week love hate that I realize will take a few years to materialize if (if he materializes).  His accuracy issues that were caused by his footwork still exist.  He has major issues reading the defense and pulling the trigger on time.  He’s constantly

late to rip it and early to run. 3 issues that he will have to fix in order to become our QB for the next 15 years.  

 

My greatest hope is that they get him the proper help in the coaching room.  Culley is uninspiring.  Adding Anderson was a. I brainer and a great move.  He needs more experienced voices in his ears and his head.  The talent should come next season.  We have enough money and picks to surround him with a solid OL and have a plethora of playmakers.  

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4 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Unfortunately, the ones we REALLY need to abide by this "contract" won't read the thread, won't agree, or will simply just continue bashing him every time he throws an errant pass (or throws a completion that was "too low", or gets sacked, or smiles, or inhales, etc.)

 

 

Dont forget when he sits on the sideline by himself....and not bring up the rest of the time he is pumping up his team mates.....

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Like the young man as a person, a competitor and a leader... seems to check the boxes here. But I didn't want him because of the lengthy history of players with lifelong, uncorrected and uncorrectable flaws, specifically the accuracy and the ability to read defenses, which leads to both inaccuracy and indecisiveness imo. You can practice it in shorts all day long because you are focused 100% on mechanics and footwork and not someone running at your to kill you. But the corrections don't take in the games when live bullets are flying. There is a litany of physical specimens that coaches and GMs have arrogantly felt like they could fix because they fell in love with the tools. Allen's flaws were so deep that selecting him because of an incorrect perception that his ceiling was higher than Rosen's (those were the two options at 7) floor is egregiously arrogant and going to cost both of these guys their jobs in the long run, unless they have the balls to double-down and draft a QB each year and strike gold. I wanted to see 4 games to make a call and I've seen enough to mail it in. He's OK when he has time, but this league isn't one where you have time, you have to be good moving around and he's not, his errors get magnified when he's moving. 

 

I will say this is a case where I'd love to be wrong. Completely. But we've seen enough flawed QBs in the post-Kelly era to know that despite coaches stating otherwise, the flaws were never fixable.

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The fact of the matter is that if he lights it up this weekend, everyone who supported him starts a thread that says "where all my josh allen haters at now!" and the josh allen haters say it's a fluke. And then when Allen sucks the next week, the haters start threads that say "where all my josh allen supporter at now!" and the josh allen lovers say it was the o-lines fault. no one wins. 

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2 hours ago, ctk232 said:

You really think Anderson is the guy to do that? And be the barometer for which Allen acclimatizes to the league? Derek Anderson? That bodes well. Better yet, what does Anderson starting and playing this year do for the team? To extend the logic of your point, if Allen is too psychologically frail to not gain experience and build from the rest of this year as our starter, than he isn't our future anyway. I personally don't believe this, but it's equally true given the logic of "psychological frailty." 

 

Playing Anderson this year over Allen sends two real messages, regardless of how they are perceived: 1. Allen isn't ready. This isn't good or bad, it's just a consequential fact of starting Anderson. That has impact on more than just Allen and his psychological state. It affects the entire team's hope for the future, the FO's hope for the future, and the entire franchise. 2. We're trying to win this year. Which is hilarious because if anyone thinks Anderson will take us back to the playoffs this year, they are sorely mistaken. Anderson isn't going to be the long term solution, so let him be the vet QB on the sidelines like everyone else on this board wanted, instead of a new QB coach to do all the things we signed Anderson for.

 

Clearly he wouldn't be my number one or even 20 choice but he is better than Peterman.  Man been in the league long enough, mediocre QB to be of value. but give me a better alternative.

 

No when i said psychologically frail  referring to if he gets all bent out os shape by being benched.

 

And

1) I agree, Allen isnt ready, stating the borederline obvi0ous, so be it. He is nowhere near a polished product.

2) No tnecesassarily, maybe they are just no trying to get Allen killed, let Anderson take the hits.

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Anyone who is not on board with the OP is a moron in my book.  A project QB from a small school with 4 games under his belt with a possibly historically bad group of o-linemen and receivers.  He's looked about as good as could be expected given the circumstances. 

 

I assume we'll upgrade the offense in the offseason so we should start to see some real progression on his part by midseason in 2019.  If not, then I'll probably start to question.  But as it stands now, I'm planning on keeping my mouth shut regarding any final conclusion on Allen for the next two years.

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