Benjamin Franklin Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Might be buried in another topic but I'm pulling it forward as I've not seen it. The US's pet (whether it's Obama's "bow" or Kushner's buddy MBS) Saudi Arabia may have Dexter-ed journalist Jamal Khashoggi. We don't have an ambassador in Turkey or Saudi Arabia. The CIA could issue a conclusion shortly. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. MBS denies any knowledge, which of course is crap, and he will have to change his tune shortly. Kushner has been pushing MBS as a US ally. Saudi Arabia is the first country Trump visited as POTUS. The Trump State Department approved a nearly 700M dollar arms deal to Saudi Arabia in March, so that's in the cauldron as well. The story is summed up well here. Developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I'm actually more surprised by your return than his disappearance. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Trust Erdogan. What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I'm actually more surprised by your return than his disappearance. Coincidence? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here. Unfortunately, our U.S. 'media' will probably toss out a few ridiculous takes...............like this: Chris Hayes jumps ALL THE SHARKS with INSANE take on Saudis and Trump You know the face you make when you sniff the milk because you’re not sure if it’s still good or not and you can tell by the smell it’s not? Yup, just made that face. We know Chris Hayes has always been sort of out there for a long while but WTAF with this tweet? Quote Chris Hayes ✔@chrislhayes Would be nice to definitively rule out that the Saudis are paying the president massive bribes in exchange for tacit approval for murdering critics! 11:01 PM - Oct 10, 2018 Did he really think implying the president would take bribes from the Saudis so they could murder his critics is even sane, let alone appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here. Unfortunately, our U.S. 'media' will probably toss out a few ridiculous takes...............like this: Chris Hayes jumps ALL THE SHARKS with INSANE take on Saudis and Trump You know the face you make when you sniff the milk because you’re not sure if it’s still good or not and you can tell by the smell it’s not? Yup, just made that face. We know Chris Hayes has always been sort of out there for a long while but WTAF with this tweet? Did he really think implying the president would take bribes from the Saudis so they could murder his critics is even sane, let alone appropriate? Journalist get killed, bash the media. No doubt what side the Trump bots are on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here. There is. But nothing will be accurately covered when it's covered in a vacuum without the benefit of context. *100% of the information available on this issue comes from Erdogan's state run media at this point. Erdogan has shifted dramatically the past three years (as most know). *The Mullahs are fighting for their lives, and the Saudis are their biggest threat (besides the US), and control a lot of western media. *Israel and the Saudis are forging a close relationship (historic in its context) and that's pissed off a lot of the old guard inside Israeli intelligence - which might explain why Mossad's favorite journalists/outlets are pushing the story so hard. *MSB is also facing internal division inside his own house, extremists inside his own government want him gone and don't want him working with Israel at all. Lots of pieces moving on this story. The best advise is to wait and see. Early judgments will undoubtedly be proven wrong... especially when they're based on analysis which doesn't factor in the bigger picture. Edited October 11, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, B-Man said: Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here. Unfortunately, our U.S. 'media' will probably toss out a few ridiculous takes...............like this: Chris Hayes jumps ALL THE SHARKS with INSANE take on Saudis and Trump You know the face you make when you sniff the milk because you’re not sure if it’s still good or not and you can tell by the smell it’s not? Yup, just made that face. We know Chris Hayes has always been sort of out there for a long while but WTAF with this tweet? Did he really think implying the president would take bribes from the Saudis so they could murder his critics is even sane, let alone appropriate? The administration has already asked, multiple times, for explanation and clarification. The media is complaining the administration has been ignoring the issue...because the media hasn't seen a story about it in the media. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: The administration has already asked, multiple times, for explanation and clarification. The media is complaining the administration has been ignoring the issue...because the media hasn't seen a story about it in the Turkish State media. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: The administration has already asked, multiple times, for explanation and clarification. The media is complaining the administration has been ignoring the issue...because the media hasn't seen a story about it in the media. What nonsense. Such butt cleaning of Trump is disgusting. Trump has sent the signal to every thug dictator in the world that he admires them. No wonder they are so brazen in their attacks. They know the WH will only mumble something and hope everyone quickly forgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: FTFY No, you didn't. The US media doesn't pay attention to the Turkish State media. They've simply been too busy with Kavanaugh to pay attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: No, you didn't. The US media doesn't pay attention to the Turkish State media. They've simply been too busy with Kavanaugh to pay attention. On this story they have, considering it's their source for every bit of information they've "broken" so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Trump's financial ties to the kingdom should also raise red flags https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/set-an-open-course-for-the-virgin-sea#.apEW1aaem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What nonsense. Such butt cleaning of Trump is disgusting. Trump has sent the signal to every thug dictator in the world that he admires them. No wonder they are so brazen in their attacks. They know the WH will only mumble something and hope everyone quickly forgets Go to the State Department web site and read all the statements and press releases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 59 minutes ago, B-Man said: Ben is correct, there is a lot more to be uncovered here Did he really think implying the president would take bribes from the Saudis so they could murder his critics is even sane, let alone appropriate? I'm guessing this article lit the fire under Ben Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Go to the State Department web site and read all the statements and press releases. I do hear Otto's voice now with every Tibs' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Once I saw who the OP was I thought the title of this thread was code for gay marriage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Truth. Also, worth the read (thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 J.A sorry to hijack your thread, I'm curious to know your thoughts on the Kavanaugh issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Erdogan faked a coup attempt in order to purge his enemies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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