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13 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I would call it more like a plastic folding chair gm. :D:beer:

Isn’t that supposed to be a plastic folding table gm?

 

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

Isn’t that supposed to be a plastic folding table gm?

 

Just waiting to be crushed in two.

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2 hours ago, YodaMan79 said:

I think the Eagles are using the Bills as leverage to get Bell.  LaCanfora said about an hour ago on the radio, here, that a 3rd would likely get the Bell deal done.  He's hearing the locker room Pitt isn't sure if Bell would be welcome back with open arms.  That should wake a bunch of Bills fans up that think LM has 2nd-3rd value.  Each week that passes the value/realistic ask drops.  Howie isn't looking for a rental, he's looking for a 2-3 year option.  

How will a 3rd get the deal done for Bell? Steelers are pretty much assured of a third round comp pick if they let him walk this offseason, no?

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2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Does trading mccoy hurt Allen's development? His best game was the one McCoy missed.

 

And his worst game was one in which Shady, coming back from injury, had 5 attempts for 24 yards and the Bills overall had 58 yds rushing

 

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2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

How will a 3rd get the deal done for Bell? Steelers are pretty much assured of a third round comp pick if they let him walk this offseason, no?

 

It's what people who make a living gathering NFL info are reporting.  My take is this: 

1. He's owed a lot of money.

2. How many teams have the money to fit him in this year?

3. He could be a rental 

4. He has had a lot of touches in his short career (his primary concern too) 

5. Locker room dynamic 

6. When is he going to be ready to play?

 

As talented as he is, not very many teams can make it work.  If a 3rd can get it done and you've worked out contract details behind scenes, you pull the trigger.

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3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

How will a 3rd get the deal done for Bell? Steelers are pretty much assured of a third round comp pick if they let him walk this offseason, no?

Comp pick wouldn’t be until 2020

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I am going to be livid if we trade Shady, but if this is where it’s going...I want a WR back. Get a pick and get Agholor. Get a WR that can be on this team for the next 5 years or don’t bother.

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2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am going to be livid if we trade Shady, but if this is where it’s going...I want a WR back. Get a pick and get Agholor. Get a WR that can be on this team for the next 5 years or don’t bother.

 

The Eagles are trying to repeat and will not give up any 1st line players in return.  

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10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

The Eagles are trying to repeat and will not give up any 1st line players in return.  

Then I don’t want to trade him there. If they want our best player then I would want a good player that can help us now in return. The bills have the hammer here.

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24 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am going to be livid if we trade Shady, but if this is where it’s going...I want a WR back. Get a pick and get Agholor. Get a WR that can be on this team for the next 5 years or don’t bother.

10 picks in 2019.  11 or 12 if they deal Shady. They can get their own WRs.  I don't want to see Shady dealt, but if they do, a player might not be a needed return.  They take up cap space.

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8 minutes ago, purple haze said:

10 picks in 2019.  11 or 12 if they deal Shady. They can get their own WRs.  I don't want to see Shady dealt, but if they do, a player might not be a needed return.  They take up cap space.

I’m not interested in throwing away this entire season for a mid round pick. Wether  people want to believe it or not, we still have a year here. We have plenty of picks already and more often then not, they end up being wasted anyway.

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10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not interested in throwing away this entire season for a mid round pick. Wether  people want to believe it or not, we still have a year here. We have plenty of picks already and more often then not, they end up being wasted anyway.

 

I have been critical of the regime for sure, Beane in particular, but we’re still in it. Sending Shady away would be a real gut punch. 

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1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not interested in throwing away this entire season for a mid round pick. Wether  people want to believe it or not, we still have a year here. We have plenty of picks already and more often then not, they end up being wasted anyway.

I prefer they keep him too.  But we've seen how Beane operates.  I've already started to try to wrap my mind around it.  If they deal him it shouldn't be for any mid-round pick.  And if most picks are wasted you want more of them not less.

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2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am going to be livid if we trade Shady, but if this is where it’s going...I want a WR back. Get a pick and get Agholor. Get a WR that can be on this team for the next 5 years or don’t bother.

Why in the world would you be livid about the Bills getting compensation for Shady?
 

He won't be back here next year anyway.  Why not get what he can for him now, in what is a totally lost year?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not interested in throwing away this entire season for a mid round pick. Wether  people want to believe it or not, we still have a year here. We have plenty of picks already and more often then not, they end up being wasted anyway.

 

I don't agree with your season outlook, but I respect it.

 

What i agree with more is keeping McCoy unless they are going to pay up. They don't owe the eagles any favors. I don't particularly want Algholor, but if he comes with a pick, ok. I like the 2nd and 3rd floor. Algholor and a 3rd is ok. Which sounds ridiculous to ask, but why not? Again, they own nothing to Philadelphia in negotiations.

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We are kidding ourselves if we think that we are real contenders this year. This defense might be a playoff D but this offense isn’t. To me McCoy is at the ‘high point’ of value. The one team who may need his services has a prior relationship. If the Bills can maximize the return then I am all for it. McCoy isn’t the problem on the team. I resigned myself to the fact that 2018 was going to be about watching Allen, and our young D. I don’t expect much more than 7 wins. If you aren’t a Super Bowl team this year, you better be building one. McCoy’s age worries me. I think he can be productive this year and possibly next. I think injuries will become more frequent for McCoy. If Philly would give a player of need and a third, take it. I understand the message it sends. I also don’t think anyone in the locker room will care as much if Ivory can keep running like he is. 

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34-14  May change peoples minds 

 

 

Maybe they trade Foles for Barkley 

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I think last night’s result makes it more likely the Eagles trade for a RB.  They looked like contenders again and their starting RB had a huge fumble that he luckily recovered on replay.  Adding McCoy or Bell could be difference between 10-6 and 12-4.  

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Trade shady.  Stockpile picks.  Trade down, not up

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11 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not interested in throwing away this entire season for a mid round pick. Wether  people want to believe it or not, we still have a year here. We have plenty of picks already and more often then not, they end up being wasted anyway.

 

Put the crack pipe down and stop thinking short term.

 

Long term benefit is trading shady and getting something for him. We aren’t going anywhere this season. We have a historic awful offense.

 

Imagine this offense on the road in the playoffs against KC. Seriously?

 

TRADE MCCOY

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I think if we lose this weekend this trade goes down.

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5 minutes ago, zevo said:

I think if we lose this weekend this trade goes down.

Yeah. It would be really hard for the Bills to trade him sitting at 3-3 if we beat the Texans. 

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If Shady will be traded, I think the deal is already done and expect an announcement on Monday.  There wasn't time this week for Shady to be ready to play for the Eagles on Thursday night, so it made sense for the Bills to benefit from one more week where he can help us win an important game before he goes.

 

Pure speculation on my part, but I think this is Shady's last game as a Bill.

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