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Do we save anything in terms of cap?


Id pull it for a conditional pick. 

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Who is Josh Reed?   Philly's Dunkirk Don? 

 

He’s on channel 4 in Buffalo 

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Take what you can get. They want Benjamin too? Throw him in, no additional charge!

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5 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said:

Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing.      

No, we would still have EJ in his 6th year, all he needed was more time.

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I love Shady but would do it for a second. Then trade down in the first to pick up another second if possible. Imagine having three second rounders and a first to rebuild the receiver corps and o line

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Just now, 4_kidd_4 said:

Take what you can get. They want Benjamin too? Throw him in, no additional charge!

Philly wants a pick in return for them getting KB

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8 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

Great!  Send us back Jason Peters and we will send back McCoy.  

 

He's ancient by now?

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Send me Alshon Jeffrey and we got a deal. Often injured or not he’s about the only one I’d take from philly for McCoy. 

I wouldn’t take a pick for him unless it’s a 1st. Obviously they won’t drop a first rounder or Jeffrey but that’s the only way I’m shipping shady off this year. Impact player or pick in return or no deal

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1 minute ago, Logic said:


Exactly this. When you talk about "building culture", I don't know how you get the team to play hard week in and week out when your coach/GM ship out your best offensive player and a team captain. It screams "we're punting on the season!".

They can't build culture when you keep peterman and get rid of a playmaker. That shows the team that the best players or playmakers don't stay... The DB that played last week was better than most of the WR, backup QB, a couple lineman. The team is growing tired of his lip service 

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1 minute ago, Ramza86 said:

Do we save anything in terms of cap?


Id pull it for a conditional pick. 

By Dan Lavoie Oct 9, 2018-Buffalo Rumblings

 

There’s also a salary implication to any trade discussion, though the impact is much lower than it would’ve been a year ago. Right now, the Bills owe McCoy just under $9 million for the season. If they trade him, it would accelerate an additional $2.625M of his signing bonus onto Buffalo’s 2018 salary cap as dead money. However, the team would save around $4 million from McCoy’s remaining 2018 salary, plus $6.425M in 2019, by not needing to pay McCoy’s salary anymore. The team to trade for McCoy would owe him those sums.

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9 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said:

Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing.      

 

As in John Butler? 

 

Cue Edith Baines Bunker voice: 

 

Those were the days... you knew who the Bills were then. Every year the wins were more than 10! The offense sure could use a man like Reed or Lofton again!

 

Didn’t have no botched field goal fakes... the offense always pulled it’s weight. And gee old Thurman ran great... THOSE WERE THE DAYYYS!

Edited by Cotton Fitzsimmons
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How about a 3rd and backup center Isaac Seumalo?

 

 

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A 30 year old running back with a high salary cap #? I'd be surprised if they could get anything more than a 4th for him, in which case it would not be worth trading him away. A 2nd round pick sounds like a pipe dream but if that happened that would at least make the trade defensible. Still don't like the idea of trading away our best offensive player when we're one game out of first place in the division.

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Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

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What about Shady for Nick Foles and a 4th in 2019.

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The Eagles would be the only team I think I would be ok trading him to. It's his home. Even playing here once his career is over no doubt he would do the "one day contract" and retire an Eagle. I think he would be happy going back, only downer for him is he missed that ring.

 

The Eagles may also be prone to overpay a tad. First off this would be a welcome PR move bringing back one of the fans all time favorite players. I have to wonder,if after winning a Super Bowl last year they are concearned about these early losses they have had. This puts the focus somewhere else. Also with Sproles set to retire next season it lets them slide McCoy into,his spot should they sign Bell in the off season.

 

Only way I make this move if I'm the GM is for a pick and a player. 3rd round or higher and maybe a skill position player. Don't think they give up Clement...but maybe Smallwood. Maybe some O line help instead. All in all...fun to speculate...but its not going to happen IMO.

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Just now, liverpoolkev said:

They can't build culture when you keep peterman and get rid of a playmaker. That shows the team that the best players or playmakers don't stay... The DB that played last week was better than most of the WR, backup QB, a couple lineman. The team is growing tired of his lip service 

It's time for you to keep quiet.  Everyone who knows anything about football talks about how well McD has coached given a team with limited talent, and how he has a solid locker room.  But you somehow think you know different based on information you claim is true that you have no way of knowing is valid.  Do you hang out in the locker room?  No.

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

 

By then Philly would have already turned to their Plan B or C

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The Super Bowl window is very small for any team not in New England. If the Eagles believe a guy like McCoy could get them back there, which they might regardless of its veracity, they will overpay, and maybe by a lot. That doesn’t mean they believe McCoy is the missing link but it’s possible. 

 

Nfl trades, for some reason, are very often not for what a player is really worth. It’s often for way more or way less. 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

By that time I would expect the Eagles to move on to someone else.

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

 

This is fine, but on the flipside, the price may go down from the Eagles as the weeks tick away...esp if they really get into dire straights with wins and losses. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

 

Our luck, McCoy will get hurt himself, and we'll get nothing.  If you are going to move him, move him now.  Too risky to wait.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

By Dan Lavoie Oct 9, 2018-Buffalo Rumblings

 

There’s also a salary implication to any trade discussion, though the impact is much lower than it would’ve been a year ago. Right now, the Bills owe McCoy just under $9 million for the season. If they trade him, it would accelerate an additional $2.625M of his signing bonus onto Buffalo’s 2018 salary cap as dead money. However, the team would save around $4 million from McCoy’s remaining 2018 salary, plus $6.425M in 2019, by not needing to pay McCoy’s salary anymore. The team to trade for McCoy would owe him those sums.

 

Not bad. I would pull it. 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. 

I never got past “Good point by Tasker...”

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