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I just posted in the other thread that Whaley’s genius drafting of EJ just keeps paying huge dividends for the franchise. 

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Besides picks or a pick, what would they have to offer?  OG?  C?  WR?  Maybe McDermott needs another DT?!?!?!?

 

 

 

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This is not the 1st time Roseman has tried to get him back. It was last year I believe it was reported and they settled for Ajayi

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I'm pretty torn about this.

On the one hand, the Bills have already pretty much stripped the offense to the nubs. Getting one more good draft pick in exchange for a player who likely won't be around when the Bills are ready for prime time potentially makes sense.

On the other hand, McCoy is a locker room leader, a team captain, and has a great relationship with Allen. Taking away the ONE good offensive player the Bills have -- and thus making life even HARDER on their rookie QB -- might be a foolhardy move.

The question, of course, is what would the compensation be? Anything less than a 2nd rounder (which I doubt the Eagles would be willing to part with) probably isn't worth it. Why? Because, again, you don't want to make Allen's difficult development even MORE difficult by stripping him of another good offensive player and a mentor/leader in the locker room.

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Just now, PIZ said:

Besides picks or a pick, what would they have to offer?  OG?  C?  WR?  Maybe McDermott needs another DT?!?!?!?

 

 

 

Corey Clement and a 2nd? 

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I think a fair value is a 3rd...however they’re in desperation mode. I genuinely don’t move him without a 2nd or 1st in 2020.

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Two 1's (and Darby in exchange) 

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Great!  Send us back Jason Peters and we will send back McCoy.  

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Corey Clement and a 2nd? 


I sincerely doubt the Eagles would give up even a 2nd, let alone a 2nd and a player.

At McCoy's age, the Bills are looking at a 3rd round pick AT most, and more likely a 4th or 5th. If I'm right about that, Bills would be better served by hanging onto him.

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Just now, SWATeam said:

Peters for McCoy!  Send them both home!

while I like the idea     Peters  is 36

Just now, cwater10 said:

Great!  Send us back Jason Peters and we will send back McCoy.  

see ^

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Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

I just posted in the other thread that Whaley’s genius drafting of EJ just keeps paying huge dividends for the franchise. 

Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing.      

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1 minute ago, Logic said:

I'm pretty torn about this.

On the one hand, the Bills have already pretty much stripped the offense to the nubs. Getting one more good draft pick in exchange for a player who likely won't be around when the Bills are ready for prime time potentially makes sense.

On the other hand, McCoy is a locker room leader, a team captain, and has a great relationship with Allen. Taking away the ONE good offensive player the Bills have -- and thus making life even HARDER on their rookie QB -- might be a foolhardy move.

The question, of course, is what would the compensation be? Anything less than a 2nd rounder (which I doubt the Eagles would be willing to part with) probably isn't worth it. Why? Because, again, you don't want to make Allen's difficult development even MORE difficult by stripping him of another good offensive player and a mentor/leader in the locker room.

 

Yeppers. Tough one.  FWIW, I would have to think it would totally demoralize the entire team if they moved him for a pick. "Front office is quitting on 2018" thoughts will be impossible to prevent in the locker room. 

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:


I sincerely doubt the Eagles would give up even a 2nd, let alone a 2nd and a player.

At McCoy's age, the Bills are looking at a 3rd round pick AT most, and more likely a 4th or 5th. If I'm right about that, Bills would be better served by hanging onto him.

I didn’t say they would give up a 2nd. That’s what it would take imo. Bills already have 10 draft picks and Mccoy is serving a big role to their rookie QB. He’s taking him under his wing and he’s a captain. I don’t see Beane salivating at a mid round pick. 

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1 minute ago, HansLanda said:

 

Yeppers. Tough one.  FWIW, I would have to think it would totally demoralize the entire team if they moved him for a pick. "Front office is quitting on 2018" thoughts will be impossible to prevent in the locker room. 


Exactly this. When you talk about "building culture", I don't know how you get the team to play hard week in and week out when your coach/GM ship out your best offensive player and a team captain. It screams "we're punting on the season!".

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3 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said:

Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing.      

But

er was deceased.  Buddy Nix.

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5 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'm pretty torn about this.

On the one hand, the Bills have already pretty much stripped the offense to the nubs. Getting one more good draft pick in exchange for a player who likely won't be around when the Bills are ready for prime time potentially makes sense.

On the other hand, McCoy is a locker room leader, a team captain, and has a great relationship with Allen. Taking away the ONE good offensive player the Bills have -- and thus making life even HARDER on their rookie QB -- might be a foolhardy move.

The question, of course, is what would the compensation be? Anything less than a 2nd rounder (which I doubt the Eagles would be willing to part with) probably isn't worth it. Why? Because, again, you don't want to make Allen's difficult development even MORE difficult by stripping him of another good offensive player and a mentor/leader in the locker room.

  Trading McCoy is playing with fire in terms of the chemistry that is building in the locker room.  Not worth it.

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3 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said:

Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing.      

I was joking of course. And it was Buddy Nix who (I agree with you) drafted EJ. There is nothing to make you know Whaley would have drafted either of those guys. Nor is Josh all that inaccurate, all things considered. 

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Just now, RochesterRob said:

  Trading McCoy is playing with fire in terms of the chemistry that is building in the locker room.  Not worth it.


I'm inclined to agree. If he was disgruntled or something, then so be it. But he's not. He's happy, healthy, and was voted team captain.

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