st pete gogolak Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I was among the crowd unhappy with the Allen selection. As Vince Lombardi is often misquoted "accuracy isn't everything, it's the only thing". But after watching some of his college tape and especially the pre-season games, I came around. Based on the first five games of the season, it's WAY too early to make any generalizations as to where this ends up. But. . . you've got a kid with linebacker size, really strong arm, very good runner and serious accuracy issues. Remind you of anyone? Cam Newton, perhaps? If Allen's ceiling is in the Cam Newton zip code, is that a bad thing? After all, Newton's got an MVP trophy and has taken a team to the Super Bowl. Are the similarities to Cam what attracted McBeane to Allen? Better line, much better receivers, a year to learn how to diagnose defenses and make quicker decisions and, most important, just like in Carolina, an offensive scheme designed to take advantage of his strengths and I think we will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 ....more like the Cam IPA.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Theres so much conjecture over what Allen's ceiling is. No one knows. Trash QB's have turned into franchise players and elite college players have become enormous busts. Theres a plethora of factors. Give it time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Cam scored 35 TDs in his rookie year, 45 in his MVP year. If that's what Allen can produce, yeah, SIGN ME UP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 please make it stop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 i think he could be a 100 percent big ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: i think he could be a 100 percent big ben Big Ben isn’t as athletic and has way better pocket awareness and movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) People underestimate how good Cam is and was.. Allen won't sniff what Cam did as a rookie. He was a beast. Edited October 8, 2018 by HeHateMe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: Big Ben isn’t as athletic and has way better pocket awareness and movement He's in year 15. His several years they were a running team with Ben being serviceable. He's also almost always been around some incredible wide receivers and tight ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 One more similarity: next year, when Kelvin Benjamin is on another team, he'll probably badmouth Josh just like he did Cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 No, that's his floor, we will never see this from Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Here's a hot take: WE DON'T !@#$ING KNOW YET. HE'S PLAYED 4 AND A HALF GAMES! 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 It will be quite awhile before we know what Josh is and Is not. I’m glad he is getting starts under his belt. For now, we just have to grit our teeth and take it for the rest of the year whatever that might be. Hopefully we see an upward trend soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 just spitballing here but maybe he'd do better without a QB coach that hadn't been a QB coach in 30 years 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The main thing to me is that Allen seems not to be letting his rookie mistakes define himself. He's not an ineffective QB who will never get better. He's a rookie QB from a second-rate college conference learning the game behind a poor O line with terrible WRs, and the Bills are 2-2 in games he's started. He isn't cocky or depressed, he's an even-keeled guy the Bills can build around. Let's go from there and see how things develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Here's a hot take: WE DON'T !@#$ING KNOW YET. HE'S PLAYED 4 AND A HALF GAMES! Agree wholeheartedly but that doesn't seem to stop anyone else from expressing an opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/04-30-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-howard-and-jeremy First Question out of the Gate: Why Josh Allen Beane's Answer: 1. Big, Strong, Athletic 2. Earned everything 3. Not recruited 4. Never complained 5. No NFL caliber players at Wyoming 6. When hurt his team immediately lost two games 7. He was the Wyoming team 8. Can run the ball like the Panthers Cam Newton 9. Pro Style offense and can make reads 10. Weather a consideration in January football I think Beane looked for the next Cam Newton. It's what he knows. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/07/buffalo_bills_gm_brandon_beane_describes_what_he_looks_for_in_franchise_quarterb.html "It's a quarterback league. I mean, who are we kidding?" Beane said. "If you look at the playoffs teams, the consistent guys that at least qualify for the playoffs or are close every year, most of them have QBs, most of them have a legit quarterback. If you want to use the word franchise, whatever word you want to use, so I understand that. Cam in Carolina was, is, a franchise quarterback. If you're a GM, you have to find a franchise quarterback. It obviously helps keep you on a consistent playing field if you have one, so I get that." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's just a boy! Cripes. Let the be for two years. Let's talk about what we do know - the rest of the offense and who might we keep. Going to be a very young and fresh offense next season I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: People underestimate how good Cam is and was.. Allen won't sniff what Cam did as a rookie. He was a beast. Now if only we had Steve Smith! or McCaffrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I don't doubt that having a big strong guy who can run if need be wasn't a factor for them I think he will be quite effective in the late season home games when wind/snow gets snotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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