Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Yes, we should totally trade for Cooper .... Kupp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 if your QB can't seem to find a WR that has one of the leading separation numbers in the NFL, why expend effort to bring him someone you think is better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: if your QB can't seem to find a WR that has one of the leading separation numbers in the NFL, why expend effort to bring him someone you think is better? I'm confused, I have it on good authority from serious Bills fans that Zay is the biggest bust in recent Bills history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: if your QB can't seem to find a WR that has one of the leading separation numbers in the NFL, why expend effort to bring him someone you think is better? Because he is better, and maybe you want more than 1 capable WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I'm confused, I have it on good authority from serious Bills fans that Zay is the biggest bust in recent Bills history. I just added this tweet to that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I'm confused, I have it on good authority from serious Bills fans that Zay is the biggest bust in recent Bills history. Actually one good play in two seasons may seal it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yes, we should totally trade for Cooper .... Kupp He's not available. There are like 4 or 5 NFL receivers who don't have some kind of baggage. Beggars can't be choosers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: He's not available. There are like 4 or 5 NFL receivers who don't have some kind of baggage. Beggars can't be choosers. we should have drafted him over Jones like I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Because he is better, and maybe you want more than 1 capable WR who is he better than, and why - if your QB already has two wide receivers capable of at least average play in the NFL (not to mention Charles Clay, and Shady McCoy) - why do you think that giving him another target will make him better? I can't see the point in mortgaging even more in the way of draft picks. A third round pick is a thing of value, and pissing it away makes zero sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: who is he better than, and why - if your QB already has two wide receivers capable of at least average play in the NFL (not to mention Charles Clay, and Shady McCoy) - why do you think that giving him another target will make him better? I can't see the point in mortgaging even more in the way of draft picks. A third round pick is a thing of value, and pissing it away makes zero sense to me. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I’d be all over this idea. With Daboll more than likely having ties to Cooper at Bama, maybe something could be worked out. Throw Benjamin in the mix and hell, Gruden likes Peterman too. There ya go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 If Cooper could catch, he'd be a really good wide receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 If Josh Allen can't get the ball to Zay Jones, who is getting good separation from DBs, what in God's name makes you think he will pass the ball in a timely manner to Amari Cooper? And while Benjamin is hardly Jerry Rice, he's a reasonable, starting WR. Nathan Peterman was able to get it to Jones for a TD. Really, the only quality pass play of the entire year. That's obscene. Let's put it another way: tell me for even a second that our total offensive package isn't at the least as good as what walks onto the field for the Jets. Right now, it ain't about the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 7:02 AM, YoloinOhio said: The Bills need to acquire a WR who is not only capable of being a #1 but is a complete WR and has some experience in the NFL to help Allen. The Bills should also draft one relatively high with deep speed (2nd - 3rd ideally). I think Gruden is ripe to trade Cooper, who is eligible for the 5th year option and then will want big money. The Raiders have shown they are willing to trade talent they feel can be replaced in the draft or cheaper. I believe the Bills will need to trade for and pay - perhaps overpay in this current climate- to obtain a real WR at this point. I would also look to obtain a FA WR who is more of a #2 guy that another team won’t want to pay - ie Tyler Boyd. May need to overpay a bit there too but this is what bad teams sometimes need to do to get talent (Jacksonville has done this over the last few years). I would go into next year with Cooper, Boyd, Zay and a rookie as the top 4. What would I give up for Cooper? A 3rd in 2020, 4th in 2019, Shaq Lawson. I saw rumblings that a just a 4th or 5th would get it done for the Raiders, maybe I’m overvaluing him but i don’t buy it. Gruden has been whining about fnding a pass rusher, Shaq is someone who he will have the ability to plug in and determine if he’s a guy they want, and has a 5th year option they can use. Bills and Raiders would basically be swapping 2015/2016 1st rd draft picks. The bottom line as I’ve said many times is that drafting a WR in the 1st is a crap shoot. I think they need to take a OT or Pass rusher with their 1st pick. Cooper is a top 10 talent who has been successful, maybe he’s not elite but those guys aren’t going to be available via trade or FA. You won’t get a big time FA WR to come to Buffalo who has options. Going to need to trade for one who has the talent to be a #1 and overpay a bit. We saw they were willing to work the trade for KB, that has not worked out but they saw the need and got who they could. He will be gone at the end of this season. Thoughts? Per usual, I was light years ahead of the pack on this one: Shoulda done it before trading away McCarron, who would have been the best QB on our roster. Let me give you guys another hot tip... After the McDoomed regime passes, I'd seriously consider Stanford's Dave Shaw as our new HC... He's got NFL creds, and experience being a shot-caller... Would change everything, IF he would ever leave Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 aj brown first round > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Cooper is a head case that isn't worth the talent he is supposed to have. He drops more balls than Benjamin and gives up on plays even more frequently than Foster.... no way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Gruden Says Raiders Not Shopping Amari Cooper Oakland Raiders coach Jon Gruden was in no mood to discuss trade rumors about receiver Amari Cooper following Sunday's blowout loss to the Seattle Seahawks in London. Cooper left the 27-3 defeat with a concussion after suffering a huge hit. "I don't know," Gruden said of the trade report, via Michael Gehlken of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "I haven't heard that. I'm just sorry to have to deal with a lot of these reports. I just hope Amari is OK. Like I said, he's going to be a big part of our pass offense, and we'll see what happens here. Hopefully he's all right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billieve420 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No thanks. I don't think Cooper is a legit # 1 and his hands are questionable. We will have to look to the draft for a # 1. Then spend money in FA to grab another 2 WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: No thanks. I don't think Cooper is a legit # 1 and his hands are questionable. We will have to look to the draft for a # 1. Then spend money in FA to grab another 2 WRs. They won’t get that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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