Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 59 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Doubtful that a team would trade for Clay considering that contract. He will likely finish out this season with the Bills then we can finally get rid of the worst contract in the league. Thanks Whaley! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Aint gonna happen. AND you make THIS team that much worse .....designate him for post June 1 release in 2019....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Get picks and dead cap?!?!?!? Beane is getting excited already at the thought! 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Aint gonna happen. AND you make THIS team that much worse The idea keeps getting better and better for Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think if we can trade EVERYONE with any talent it will really help Josh become a bust. That would be great for our future since we all want a 0-16 season any year we cant win the superbowl cause we all know superbowls are won by #1 draft picks just like the Patriots have done for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I understand the thought of trading away anyone with any value. What I don’t understand is why people want this, but complain when we did that last year. Clay isn’t Gronk, but he’s not bad. McCoy has no real value. And Benjamin, why would anyone want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Thanks Whaley! ...OBD got snookered by the Fins.........figured they would match the offer sheet and tie up cap space and it back fired..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 In a trade the other team would only be responsible for 4.5 million this year. If cut next year, it would be a 4.5 million dead cap. Not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, billsfan5121 said: I understand the thought of trading away anyone with any value. What I don’t understand is why people want this, but complain when we did that last year. Clay isn’t Gronk, but he’s not bad. McCoy has no real value. And Benjamin, why would anyone want him? My reasoning on Clay is I don't believe he will be on the opening day roster in 2019. I could be wrong, and if he is in the plans next year than I doubt they would trade him if they even had a chance too. But I don't think he is a guy that fits what McD and Beane want as a player, he has no focus and questionable effort IMO. And he is a guy that has underperformed to his ability his entire career and to his contract. So again, its not about getting rid of "talent", for me its rooted in my belief that I dont think he will be on the opening day roster in 2019 and would rather get something back for him now so we can have more ammo to make the moves we need to make in this draft. Again, though, if Beane and McD see him as a guy moving forward, than they shouldn't trade him. I just am highly skeptical he is that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I dont disagree with this, I just dont believe Clay will be here next year...so rather than just cut him, I would be interested in getting more draft assets in this draft. The more we have, the more ammo we have to move around the draft when opportunity arises like how Edmunds got to us. Doesnt even have to be first round movement, we could use more picks to move up in other rounds to grab a guy they covet who may not last to our pick. And if we dont trade, we could use all those picks to address holes. So, while I agree Clay is the best receiving option, he is also doing nothing for this team right now, so might as well get something for him if we can net a 5th for him IMO and get rid of his contract too. I worry about the very real potential for long term PTSD/shell shock for Allen. It's happened to more than a few QBs who have been forced to play early on in abysmal offenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I worry about the very real potential for long term PTSD/shell shock for Allen. It's happened to more than a few QBs who have been forced to play early on in abysmal offenses. Fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 if we send Clay and a second, we might be able to get back a third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 yes trade Clay I'm all for it We got bamboozled by the Fins on that signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: In a trade the other team would only be responsible for 4.5 million this year. If cut next year, it would be a 4.5 million dead cap. Not that bad. ...doesn't post June 1 designation spread it over two years?............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Which one is he now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: yes trade Clay I'm all for it We got bamboozled by the Fins on that signing ...so now tell us who would be his suitors for his salary and "wounded knees"?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Clay, another Rex special...\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I'd put out feelers. If you could get a mid round pick I'd do the deal and get O'Leary back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Sweats said: .....fire everybody Punitive damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Allen for a third and future considerations? or allen and clay for foles, cox and a 4th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Father time has caught up to Clay- no trade value imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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