******* Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I gotta call bull **** on these stats (or at least how they’re computed). Nonsense 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I need to see the numbers. I’m not buying it. Do they keep the clock running while he is running for his life? Edited October 2, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Here's an answer why we suck. Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Buffalo Bills (62 percent owned) This is the most predictable stat of the season: Among all receivers with at least 20 passing looks, Kelvin Benjamin is dead last (159th-of-159) in yards of separation at the catch point, per Next Gen Stats. Last year, Benjamin was also dead last in yards of separation among receivers (129th-of-129). A black hole for passing production at this point, Benjamin has caught just 7 of his 21 targets -- 10 of which have been "catchable" (per PFF). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 More time and fewer receivers to throw to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, ******* said: According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen Is that time in the pocket or total time when he’s running like a headless chicken and heaves up a prayer? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 That’s actually impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 We have a terrible oline, they need to redo their analysis if that is the answer they found. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: Is that time in the pocket or total time when he’s running like a headless chicken and heaves up a prayer? The latter. Time from snap until throw/sack/scramble past LOS. Same true of TT last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: The latter. Time from snap until throw/sack/scramble past LOS. Same true of TT last year. Kind of a meaningless stat then 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: Kind of a meaningless stat then Yes, for a mobile QB. That said, there are plays on film where Allen has guys open and there is a pocket/protection, but he isn't seeing them/pulling the trigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, GG said: Kind of a meaningless stat then Yes. A better stat would measure something like “time to release or pocket collapse.” Obviously not all plays would qualify - designed rollouts/bootlegs wouldn’t really count, but I think overall it would paint a better picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, ******* said: According to Next Gen stats, NOBODY in the NFL has had MORE 'TIME TO THROW' than Josh Allen Hey, where's the guy that always replies to one or these with "link or it doesn't exist"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I’m surprised they’d even let this stat get out. This is the kind of thing that completely ruins your credibility. This is garbage data and anyone watching Allen behind that line knows they need to look at what they’re actually collecting. Next gen, hope not? Edited October 2, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It’s counting snap to the time he throws it. So when a LB comes untouched and he’s running for his life...you can’t say he had 4 seconds to throw the ball. These stats don’t take in any context. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Garbage indeed. And an insult to every serious fan out there. I can’t believe anyone consumes this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I gotta call bull **** on these stats (or at least how they’re computed). Nonsense If the clock continues while he’s turning, and running for his life.....maybe? No, there is no discounting how bad this blocking is. Even Josh admits he should be quicker to get the ball out, but we need to build the OLine. And find the best coach money can buy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just another example of "stats not telling the whole story" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Our problem is the receivers getting separation. When you hear its taking too much time for the play to develop it means ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augie said: If the clock continues while he’s turning, and running for his life.....maybe? No, there is no discounting how bad this blocking is. Even Josh admits he should be quicker to get the ball out, but we need to build the OLine. And find the best coach money can buy. Online coach or head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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