ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If the Bills want to save the season/help Allen progress then something has to be done. I know they need continuity, but it's best to nip it in the bud and do it NOW instead of waiting until the end of the year where Daboll will inevitably be gone. There is no way Josh is going to blossom when there is no running game being established and he is getting sacked 7 times a game. I mean they're down 16 points early in the 4th and the Bills were in need of 4 yards on third down and what does the genius Daboll call? A long developing pass play where the every WR are running 20-30 yards down the field and not giving Allen a decent check down option. Our line is TERRIBLE ! what the hell was that?? Why is he not playing to our only strength and running it? It was happening all game long, 5 wide sets and expecting miracles. I'm not going to act like I'm some offensive coordinator, but I can see that this is not working and I can see (we all can see) that Daboll is in way over his head The 1-31 Browns are scoring points this year with a rookie QB and that's because Mayfield is given easy plays and a running game. Allen was at fault, but he's not being set up to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 And what was your opinion of him last week? Let me guess: you loved his play calling and Allen looked like Jim Kelly out there! Let the season play out. If you expect any huge changes in the middle of the season, just don't hold your breath. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Are you suggesting running more when we're down by 3 scores in the fourth? INteresting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What if they are not trying to save their season? What if we are rebiulding and going 8-8 doesnt really help us this year? Hmmmmmm 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: Are you suggesting running more when we're down by 3 scores in the fourth? INteresting! What? The Bills were down 3 scores the entire 2nd half. All they needed was a touchdown and they would've been right back in it. They played like they were down 30 to nothing the entire game. If you agree with the play calling then I don't know what to say. 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: What if they are not trying to save their season? What if we are rebiulding and going 8-8 doesnt really help us this year? Hmmmmmm Then that would be an extreme injustice to the veterans on this team like Lorax or Kyle who are trying to build off the momentum of last year. 22 minutes ago, MJS said: And what was your opinion of him last week? Let me guess: you loved his play calling and Allen looked like Jim Kelly out there! Let the season play out. If you expect any huge changes in the middle of the season, just don't hold your breath. Are you kidding me? LOL I've hated the Daboll signing as soon as it happened and 1 out of 4 games is not going to change my stance. If he can start putting together multiple games of competent offense opposed to getting blown out 75% of the time then maybe he'll earn my respect. Allen is what he is which is a Rookie who is going to be up and down regardless of the play calling. It's up to Daboll to make it easier on him which he most certainly isn't calling f*#@ing 5 wide sets on 3rd and manageables with a rookie QB, crap offensive line, and even crappier recievers. RUN THE BALL ! if you can't see that this isn't the problem then i'll be back to say I told you so when he gets fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 This post is nearly the equivalent of the idiotic Bills fan sitting across from me in the bar today saying he was going to start a petition this week to start Peterman. Wait.... no.... I'm sorry.... As dumb as this post is--and it's dumb--the guy who said to start Peterman was MUCH dumber. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Daboll is 3 out of 4 miscalling game plans......he merits a banishment from the team trough of food, which he loves. Edited October 1, 2018 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, MJS said: And what was your opinion of him last week? Let me guess: you loved his play calling and Allen looked like Jim Kelly out there! Let the season play out. If you expect any huge changes in the middle of the season, just don't hold your breath. Rex Ryan fired his OC Greg Roman after only 2 games, just a couple of years ago, while coaching this team! You make it sound like it's unheard of. 23 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: What if they are not trying to save their season? What if we are rebiulding and going 8-8 doesnt really help us this year? Hmmmmmm Yeah, what if we are tanking in order to get the No. 1 overall pick? And what if we draft a QB with that No.1 pick, knowing all along last year that Allen was just a long shot gamble and not expected to be "the guy" going forward?! I like it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: What? The Bills were down 3 scores the entire 2nd half. All they needed was a touchdown and they would've been right back in it. They played like they were down 30 to nothing the entire game. If you agree with the play calling then I don't know what to say. Then that would be an extreme injustice to the veterans on this team like Lorax or Kyle who are trying to build off the momentum of last year. Are you kidding me? LOL I've hated the Daboll signing as soon as it happened and 1 out of 4 games is not going to change my stance. If he can start putting together multiple games of competent offense opposed to getting blown out 75% of the time then maybe he'll earn my respect. Allen is what he is which is a Rookie who is going to be up and down regardless of the play calling. It's up to Daboll to make it easier on him which he most certainly isn't calling f*#@ing 5 wide sets on 3rd and manageables with a rookie QB, crap offensive line, and even crappier recievers. RUN THE BALL ! if you can't see that this isn't the problem then i'll be back to say I told you so when he gets fired. On that we can agree. On the game hinging on play calling I will, however, have to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This post is nearly the equivalent of the idiotic Bills fan sitting across from me in the bar today saying he was going to start a petition this week to start Peterman. Wait.... no.... I'm sorry.... As dumb as this post is--and it's dumb--the guy who said to start Peterman was MUCH dumber. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure Daboll played a big hand in naming Peterman the starter too. I am in complete shock that people are satisfied with the play calling this year. My god our QB has been sacked 18 times this year, we've scored 5 TDs the entire year, and our lead back has 85 yards rushing How the *&$& are people not seeing a problem? No free agent is going to want to come here next year and a couple high picks aren't going fix this disaster. The people on this forum blow me away. 12 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Rex Ryan fired his OC Greg Roman after only 2 games, just a couple of years ago, while coaching this team! You make it sound like it's unheard of. Exactly. Edited October 1, 2018 by ChronicAndKnuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure Daboll played a big hand in naming Peterman the starter too. I am in complete shock that people are satisfied with the play calling this year. My god our QB has been sacked 18 times this year, we've scored 5 TDs the entire year, and our lead back has 85 yards rushing How the *&$& are people not seeing a problem? No free agent is going to want to come here next year and a couple high picks aren't going fix this disaster. The people on this forum blow me away. How the $%$#^ are you not seeing our o-line? I understand they don't always point the cameras at the receivers, but they're not good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 McDerrmott out to wear a hat with a spinning beanie propprelor on it. He has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: McDerrmott out to wear a hat with a spinning beanie propprelor on it. He has no clue. I'm sure he out to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This post is nearly the equivalent of the idiotic Bills fan sitting across from me in the bar today saying he was going to start a petition this week to start Peterman. Wait.... no.... I'm sorry.... As dumb as this post is--and it's dumb--the guy who said to start Peterman was MUCH dumber. You showed a lot of restraint by not trying to shake some sense into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: How the $%$#^ are you not seeing our o-line? I understand they don't always point the cameras at the receivers, but they're not good either. YES AND WITH A CRAPPY O LINE YOU DON'T SEND OUT 5 WIDE RECIEVER SETS WHEN THE YOU ONLY NEED 4 YARDS ! YOU SCHEME AGAINST YOUR WEAKNESSES. AM I GETTING THROUGHT TO YOU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 A few different bounces....interception not dropped....and 14 points of offence would have won the game.....I know shoulda coulda woulda....but we only need mediocre OL play to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: YES AND WITH A CRAPPY O LINE YOU DON'T SEND OUT 5 WIDE RECIEVER SETS WHEN THE YOU ONLY NEED 4 YARDS ! YOU SCHEME AGAINST YOUR WEAKNESSES. AM I GETTING THROUGHT TO YOU? Did you mean 'receiver' and 'through'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: YES AND WITH A CRAPPY O LINE YOU DON'T SEND OUT 5 WIDE RECIEVER SETS WHEN THE YOU ONLY NEED 4 YARDS ! YOU SCHEME AGAINST YOUR WEAKNESSES. AM I GETTING THROUGHT TO YOU? I said the same thing last week and it happened again. Blitzes coming thru untouched. I remember one play where Ivory was kept in the backfield and helped but there was still pressure. Four wide with this O-line is just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure Daboll played a big hand in naming Peterman the starter too. I am in complete shock that people are satisfied with the play calling this year. My god our QB has been sacked 18 times this year, we've scored 5 TDs the entire year, and our lead back has 85 yards rushing How the *&$& are people not seeing a problem? No free agent is going to want to come here next year and a couple high picks aren't going fix this disaster. The people on this forum blow me away. The ones who disagree with you are blowing you away? Yup, glad you can see that. Yeah, our offense sucks. No, it's not mostly on the OC, though he deserves a share probably. Just looking at the roster on the offense, this season always looked like a bad year, especially after McCarron wasn't as good as we'd hoped. The OL sucks. The receivers aren't never looked like they'd be better than a bit below mediocre and once McCarron played poorly the best likely outcome would have been Allen sitting on the bench and developing and Peterman being acceptable. We simply don't have a lot of offensive talent and what we do have is young and unproven except for the RBs. When there are problems in any system in life, here's the first reaction that generally comes up: QUICK!!! Find a scapegoat and have a knee-jerk reaction!!!! HURRY!! Don't stop to think!!!!!!! Generally unproductive and ineffective but it's the first and most common reaction you find. Edited October 1, 2018 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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