SoCal Deek Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: We were outscored 75-9 through 6 quarters and now all of a sudden we have a rebuilt defense and all these star draft picks? We shouldn't give it another minute? Sunday is going to show whether September is actually the new August in the NFL. Teams are settling in after virtually zero cohesive playing time in preseason. Yes, The Bills looked horrible for the first six quarters but have been a shut down defense in the last six. Go Bills! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Regardless of who it is, the key to this game is how well the corner opposite of White plays tomorrow. Rogers will be looking that way most of the day, after he's looked off the safety of course.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Logic said: Yep, Johnson's been balling. Quietly, the Bills have rebuilt their defense. It's not finished yet, but a core of Edmunds, Milano, Philips, White, Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson (with Murphy and Star as nice veteran additions through free agency) is very promising. I do agree that we're a CB away from a top 5 secondary, but best in the league? Peters, Talib, Joyner, Johnson for the Rams or Ramsey, Bouye, Gipson, Church from the Jags might have something to say about that. Put a better more consistent pass rush in front of them and don't think it's a stretch to be considered one of the best. The Bill's VB's are also very young, could see more improvement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Nice to see him come in and solidify the Slot Corner position. Hope he stays healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Hopefully as he and Lewis continue to mature 9 hours ago, Logic said: Yep, Johnson's been balling. Quietly, the Bills have rebuilt their defense. It's not finished yet, but a core of Edmunds, Milano, Philips, White, Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson (with Murphy and Star as nice veteran additions through free agency) is very promising. I do agree that we're a CB away from a top 5 secondary, but best in the league? Peters, Talib, Joyner, Johnson for the Rams or Ramsey, Bouye, Gipson, Church from the Jags might have something to say about that. Talib's on IR. So top-2 secondary. Hopefully Lewis and Johnson keep improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: We were outscored 75-9 through 6 quarters and now all of a sudden we have a rebuilt defense and all these star draft picks? We shouldn't give it another minute? You left out the Frazier downgrade equation. It's rather significant it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 McDerm specializes in cornerbacks and cornerback assecories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 13 hours ago, billspro said: 4 Rookies with significant playing time and playing well. Harrison Phillips had the second highest grade in PFF for rookie DTs too. We are one CB away from having the best secondary in the NFL. White, Poyer, Hyde, and Johnson are legit. Ryan Lewis perhaps? He did beat out Lafayette Pitts, who was with the team all of preseason, to be signed on the 53 from the practice squad; and he played admirably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: You left out the Frazier downgrade equation. It's rather significant it appears. ....good question......what caused Frazier's "sudden defensive epiphany"?..........we were lethargic during pre-season and worse during the first 6 quarters......McD supposedly takes away play calling, but returns them for Vikes game (stellar D) along with a game ball.......is it passin' the "smell test"?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Ryan Lewis perhaps? He did beat out Lafayette Pitts, who was with the team all of preseason, to be signed on the 53 from the practice squad; and he played admirably. Wasn't Pitts injured last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Wasn't Pitts injured last week? Not sure, but I was under the impression that their decision was made based off ability, not availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Ryan Lewis perhaps? He did beat out Lafayette Pitts, who was with the team all of preseason, to be signed on the 53 from the practice squad; and he played admirably. Perhaps : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 16 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I would pump the brakes on the elite secondary claims....... Yes they play well together in spurts but besides a top 10 corner in White its a couple scrappy safeties, a so far pretty good Johnson and then a bunch of help me baby Jesuses as the remaining cb's.......front 4 and lb is where to focus on really finishing the overall unit though. Hyde and Proyer are a very legit top 5 safety combo in the league, so to underplay them as "scrappy" is under playing them and as you mentioned White is a stud at corner. That's a pretty good base to start a secondary with, toss in the fact that Johnson seems to be playing well and that adds a second pretty good reliable corner. If you have 4 very legit players who can all play at a high level that's a pretty dam good secondary if they are all healthy. IF Johnson is playing at a high level I would classify them as a top 5 secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 16 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I would pump the brakes on the elite secondary claims....... Yes they play well together in spurts but besides a top 10 corner in White its a couple scrappy safeties, a so far pretty good Johnson and then a bunch of help me baby Jesuses as the remaining cb's.......front 4 and lb is where to focus on really finishing the overall unit though. A couple of scrappy what? Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 22 hours ago, billspro said: 4 Rookies with significant playing time and playing well. Harrison Phillips had the second highest grade in PFF for rookie DTs too. We are one CB away from having the best secondary in the NFL. White, Poyer, Hyde, and Johnson are legit. Harry has been really solid and may negate the need to draft another DT on day 1 or 2. We'll still need some depth, though. That's assuming Kyle retires before 2019. 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: A couple of scrappy what? Lol Just replace "scrappy" with "excellent" and you've got it. S is the strongest position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Milano's been kicking ass and taking names... Every time I look he's in on a play.... If there is a defensive core to this team at all, Milano and Hughes anchor it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Love seeing positive threads around here. Taron Johnson has been playing great ball as of late. Very excited about the kid. I love how this coaching staff identifies needs and addresses them in the later rounds. Milano and now Johnson. Very encouraging. Any news on Phillip Gaines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Logic said: Yep, Johnson's been balling. Quietly, the Bills have rebuilt their defense. It's not finished yet, but a core of Edmunds, Milano, Philips, White, Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson (with Murphy and Star as nice veteran additions through free agency) is very promising. I do agree that we're a CB away from a top 5 secondary, but best in the league? Peters, Talib, Joyner, Johnson for the Rams or Ramsey, Bouye, Gipson, Church from the Jags might have something to say about that. Yeah how about that rams secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBills20 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 9/28/2018 at 11:18 PM, Logic said: Yep, Johnson's been balling. Quietly, the Bills have rebuilt their defense. It's not finished yet, but a core of Edmunds, Milano, Philips, White, Hyde, Poyer, and Johnson (with Murphy and Star as nice veteran additions through free agency) is very promising. I do agree that we're a CB away from a top 5 secondary, but best in the league? Peters, Talib, Joyner, Johnson for the Rams or Ramsey, Bouye, Gipson, Church from the Jags might have something to say about that. While I think they Bills are well on their way and probably top 10 in that category, let's take off our fan glasses here. The Ravens (J Smith/Humphrey, Weddle/Jefferson), and the Chargers (Hayward/King/Williams, Addae/James) are shoe-ins. The Titans, Jets, and Vikings (Been bad, but have arguably the best safety and corner in the game), Eagles are probably better too. Excited to be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 7:38 AM, I am the egg man said: Way too early to be glorifying any new player, or one who's lingered in obscurity here, as solid based on two horrible games and only one decent game. You can't say that. 1 game has has turned us into a wild card contender that can blow out the Pack at Lambeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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