YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 https://buffalonews.com/2018/09/21/bills-forced-into-big-nickel-vs-chargers-and-the-personnel-package-flops-again/ The numbers for big nickel through two games are brutal. Rivers, Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson combined to complete 31 of 36 passes (86.1 percent) for 336 yards (9.3 yards per attempt) and four touchdowns through the air. That equates to a quarterback rating of 133.3. During many of Bush's snaps, the Bills utilized a 3-3-5 nickel defense with three down linemen, three linebackers and five defensive backs (three of which were safeties, technically making it big nickel). In the first two games against regular nickel, Rivers, Flacco, and Jackson combined to go 8 of 15 (53.3 percent) for 68 yards (4.5 yards per attempt) with two touchdowns and a quarterback rating of 105.5. With cornerback Ryan Lewis called up from the practice squad, the Bills will have the opportunity to run more classic nickel defense in Week Three against the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Maybe they should go to a plug nickel formation ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Damn. Thought Busy was going to be a nice under the radar signing. Hopefully they can work out the kinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Maybe they should go to a plug nickel formation ? ...or pull the plug on the big nickel??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Maybe they should go to a plug nickel formation ? ...two bits!!............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: Damn. Thought Busy was going to be a nice under the radar signing. Hopefully they can work out the kinks Rachel Bush > Rafael Bush?? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Rachel Bush > Rafael Bush?? ...choose your Bush.....we're waiting............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 numbers change any in the 2nd half last week? seemed the D made some adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I am not sure the Bills are really running big nickel. They are running traditional nickel but have so few corners they are lining a safety up at the nickel spot. But that safety is trying to play a traditional nickel role they are not being utilised to closer to the line of scrimmage or being asked to read and react and play run support in the way I would usually associate with a big nickel package. It is just a safety being asked to do a job he doesn't have the short area quickness for and getting exposed because we have no corners. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure the Bills are really running big nickel. They are running traditional nickel but have so few corners they are lining a safety up at the nickel spot. But that safety is trying to play a traditional nickel role they are not being utilised to closer to the line of scrimmage or being asked to read and react and play run support in the way I would usually associate with a big nickel package. It is just a safety being asked to do a job he doesn't have the short area quickness for and getting exposed because we have no corners. That definitely happened last week . Hopefully Gaines and Johnson will play this week. And we don’t need to worry about the corpse of Vontae and will be fielding an actual player at corner. Edited September 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That definitely happened last week Happened after Taron Johnson went out week 1 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure the Bills are really running big nickel. They are running traditional nickel but have so few corners they are lining a safety up at the nickel spot. But that safety is trying to play a traditional nickel role they are not being utilised to closer to the line of scrimmage or being asked to read and react and play run support in the way I would usually associate with a big nickel package. It is just a safety being asked to do a job he doesn't have the short area quickness for and getting exposed because we have no corners. Exactly - the problem is it still is a big nickel package regardless of how you run it. While you make an important distinction there, the media have no clue, nor do they care to pay mind to how it's run either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It’s a rebuild year so makes sense to play stupid coverages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3-3-5 with this team is a recipe for disaster. We need to get to the QB. That means you can't rush 3 guys and drop 8 into a zone. That's foolish. No wonder we got scorched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 We definitely need 4 down lineman in our defense. With no pass rush both Flacco and Rivers looked like All Pro's against us. Things changed when McDermott took over the play calling in the 2nd half. We need to stick with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, H2o said: We definitely need 4 down lineman in our defense. With no pass rush both Flacco and Rivers looked like All Pro's against us. Things changed when McDermott took over the play calling in the 2nd half. We need to stick with that. If the secondary can hold up. Frazier played safer ball it seems , due to thinning of the secondary? McD was taking some risks rushing. It worked. But can he trust who is lining up back there to play tight and disciplined ? Edited September 21, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: If the secondary can hold up. Frazier played safer ball it seems , due to thinning of the secondary? McD was taking some risks rushing. It worked. But can he trust who is lining up back there to play tight and disciplined ? Seemed to work last year with basically the same personnel, minus Brown and Gaines of course. The attacking style fits us better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, H2o said: Seemed to work last year with basically the same personnel, minus Brown and Gaines of course. The attacking style fits us better. I agree about the attacking aggressive style fitting. But the secondary has turned over their depth in a big way. Second string rookies. and Live fire. patience might be considered here. When Edmunds develops more patience and better reads the game , the Defense will improve front to back. But perhaps you are right. Get after it football ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Dick Jauron never would have let the team run out of corners 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: That definitely happened last week . Hopefully Gaines and Johnson will play this week. And we don’t need to worry about the corpse of Vontae and will be fielding an actual player at corner. It happened in the first half. I think the struggles may have more to do with execution that personnel groupings. 8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Dick Jauron never would have let the team run out of corners Now you know why! You can't have too many corners. Edited September 21, 2018 by vincec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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