QCity Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Woods week 1: 3 for 36 Watkins week 1: 3 for 21 OP can cherry pick his stats, so can I. Proving that using one game to indict a decision is worthless. And I say that as one who would have liked to see Sammy stay. The OP also ignores that Woods got an 8 million a year deal, and that it was Whaley who did not negotiate an extension before he hit free agency. Plus it was widely reported he wanted to be back on the west coast. Sammy? He wanted the big contract, was coming off an injury that kept him out of ten games the prior year. They traded him, and the Rams also did not see him as worth a big contract so they also let him go. To akC. Who in game 1 paid a lot of money for 3 catches for 21 yards. The Rams had a rookie QB two seasons ago, did horribly, then they used their off season to draft and use FA to put more weapons around him. The Bills this season have a rookie QB, we'll see how he does, and have an offseason with a ton of draft picks and cap space to put more weapons around him. Just putting facts out there. Some folks here say not to just insult the OP but give evidence why he's wrong. There you go. A lot of posters here aren't looking for answers, they just want to vent and aren't deserving of a coherent reply like this. I certainly wouldn't have typed all that in response to someone blaming Beane for letting Woods go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: What a completely worthless stat. Again, EJ had 2 tds, 0 ints and left with the lead against the Pats. That’s a better start. And the Bills have only drafted 2 first round qbs since Kelly. So congrats on beating EJ and JP Losman with that heroic meaningless drive!! I feel so much better. show me something in non garbage time against The Vikes and then we can talk. Why can’t you admit you where wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Look at me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Funny.... OP forgot how Sammy and Wood had like 3 catches in Week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Gugny said: You're as cold as ice ..... you're willing to sacrifice our love .... I've seen it before ..... It happens all the time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Lfod said: It looks like the mentality was to clean up in the first few seasons. Clean up all the talent and trade them away? Mission accomplished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Foreigner said: The most passing yards and $3.00 will get me some brew at Starbucks tomorrow. I just checked Starbucks website. I don;t see that deal anywhere,, mayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Duh. Watkins is a top 5 to 10 WR when healthy and Woods is very under rated. Are we supposed to be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Foreigner said: The last 2 weeks are what happens when you quit on talent as the above statistics from Sunday shows. Like I wrote last year, Beane and McDermott got duped by Carolina on Benjamin. He is even on the injury report again this week. Jones made 1 long catch after he bobbled the ball. I guess running around naked with blood on his body didn't make him a better WR. Thanks for the discipline Sean and Beane. they both wanted out. they were not staying in any event. Watkins proved that by bailing on the Rams after his contract was up. Woods totally wanted out. He did not even look at a contract from the Bills. so these are not on McBeanes. SoCal guys and other high end guys don't want to play for this franchise. I can see why. Both are rockin it with really good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, leonbus23 said: And Hogan had 2 touchdowns! Trading Sammy who was only 23 at the time for a second round pick and medicore DB is the main reason why the Bills have been so bad for so long. This could be the worst roster we have fielded since our famous 2-14 season. Beane is loser and just a matter of time before he is gone, i mean can anyone explain some of the jack-as? deals he has made? The Bills pay 2 first round picks for Sammy so we can just give him away for pennies on the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Josh used 11 different receivers and was the first rookie QB with the most passing yards since Jim Kelly. Mic drop And another double digits loss for McBeane. Is how we lose really something you feel encouraged about? Edited September 20, 2018 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) How about just look at guys the Bills could have reasonably drafted in the past few years but chose not to. Juju, Boyd, etc. Much better players than ANYTHING the Bills have. Paying Watkins would have been crazy shoes. Woods was a mistake. Hogan is about to be pushed to WR4, he is JAG. Goodwin never put football first while he was here, he showed more than most of the current guys but retaining him wasn’t a must. Looking back at the past three drafts you can find plenty of NFL caliber WRs that were slotted where the Bills could have reasonably taken them. That’s the problem I have. Edited September 20, 2018 by Commonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Josh used 11 different receivers and was the first rookie QB with the most passing yards since Jim Kelly. Mic drop You forgot to mention the fact that by him using 11 different receivers he broke the BILLS record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Compare players on different teams with different players, coaches, schemes, etc. Makes total sense to me bud! So are you saying if Watkins and Woods were still here, they would have matched these numbers? Pass around what you are smoking. Edited September 20, 2018 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Foreigner said: The last 2 weeks are what happens when you quit on talent as the above statistics from Sunday shows. Like I wrote last year, Beane and McDermott got duped by Carolina on Benjamin. He is even on the injury report again this week. Jones made 1 long catch after he bobbled the ball. I guess running around naked with blood on his body didn't make him a better WR. Thanks for the discipline Sean and Beane. Actually they ARE being disciplined by not trying to spend a ton on 1 or 2 players while there are so many other holes that need to be addressed. This is a rebuild. Get over it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Could this be the worst thread of the month? Let’s wait and find out. Why is that? Because the OP doesn't blindly worship at the shrine to football greatness that is McDermott and Beane? 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Bean not talking to Sammy was well reported. I honestly couldn’t believe he admitted. Sammy just turned 25. The Bills killed Tyrod’s one good passing game skill by trading him. And now, we gave Allen the worst wrs in the entire nfl. and no most teams don’t do this. I love the Pegulas. I really do. But they forced two coaches on Whaley. Then, they picked the coach with the old GM and then fired him to hire McDermott’s friend. No, most well run teams don’t do that and you’re kidding yourself if you think they do. Well said. Giving a rookie HC control of player selection is a prescription for disaster. A few successful HCs, most notably Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, and Pete Carroll, have control over player selection, but these HCs have decades of experience. I'm not sure about Reid, but both Belichick and Carroll failed miserably in their early HC stints when they had control over players (Belichick in Cleveland and Carroll in both NE and Jets). 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: Actually they ARE being disciplined by not trying to spend a ton on 1 or 2 players while there are so many other holes that need to be addressed. This is a rebuild. Get over it! Can I interest you in purchasing a recently rehabbed bridge over Chautauqua Lake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: And another double digits loss for McBeane. Is how we lose really something you feel encouraged about? people are missing the point Sammy has a big catch and yard # in a game. How many targets? Does anyone care that with those 11 different targets he passed for the most yards as a rookie in his first game since Kelly? That imo is something you feel encouraged about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Foreigner said: The last 2 weeks are what happens when you quit on talent as the above statistics from Sunday shows. Like I wrote last year, Beane and McDermott got duped by Carolina on Benjamin. He is even on the injury report again this week. Jones made 1 long catch after he bobbled the ball. I guess running around naked with blood on his body didn't make him a better WR. Thanks for the discipline Sean and Beane. Foreigner aka Mick Jones/Lou Gramm Your Urgent Posts on former Bills WR's seems Hot Blooded. I know after an 0-2 start and our current WR crew, its a Blue Morning, Blue Day, but when you look at the contracts both Woods ($34MM) and Sammy Signed ($45MM), its like Double Vision. You put those numbers on our Cap space and you'd be playing Head Games. Don't get me wrong, I liked Woods, moreso than paying Sammy, but That was Yesterday. I know the current roster is a Long Long Way From Home, but we have a new Juke Box Hero with Josh Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) What did Sammy do last season in LA? 39 of 70 in 15 games 5 targets per game and only 2.6 catches per game! and he was released let go and they kept Robert Woods. 1 hour ago, Protocal69 said: You forgot to mention the fact that by him using 11 different receivers he broke the BILLS record. I read that, but then when you go into the meat of the article he really didn't break a record. Breaking the record would have been surpassing Kelly. I see now they updated the graphic https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-bills-young-leaders-working-on-discipline-comfort Edited September 20, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Foreigner said: The last 2 weeks are what happens when you quit on talent as the above statistics from Sunday shows. Like I wrote last year, Beane and McDermott got duped by Carolina on Benjamin. He is even on the injury report again this week. Jones made 1 long catch after he bobbled the ball. I guess running around naked with blood on his body didn't make him a better WR. Thanks for the discipline Sean and Beane. Blame Whaley... he's the reason we lost woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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