Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Bean not talking to Sammy was well reported. I honestly couldn’t believe he admitted. Sammy just turned 25. The Bills killed Tyrod’s one good passing game skill by trading him. And now, we gave Allen the worst wrs in the entire nfl. and no most teams don’t do this. I love the Pegulas. I really do. But they forced two coaches on Whaley. Then, they picked the coach with the old GM and then fired him to hire McDermott’s friend. No, most well run teams don’t do that and you’re kidding yourself if you think they do. Show me some evidence that they were friends, can you post some pictures of their families going on vacation together, then I'll agree they are friends. Though even then many times staff members do socialize together. They both worked together for the same team for a few seasons, that hardly makes them friends. They didn't go to college together or follow eachother from team to team. How many times do you hear a team hires a new HC and right away he brings some of his old staff with him. Rex brought half his Jets staff here. Marrone brought Hackett and then brought him to Jax too. Based on your definition, that must make them all friends too. Well if so, then yes all the teams are doing it. Bill Pollian had worked with Marv Levy in the CFL guess he hired his friend too. I do agree that TP forced two coaches on Whaley, if he was allowed to pick his own guy who would he likely have chosen, probably someone he had some type of prior relationship with previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: All I want to do is dance dance dance ? I don’t get your point what i posted stands Allen started the first game of his professional career in Week 2 of the 2018 season. He completed 18 passes for 245 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. In fact, Allen’s initial outing produced the most yardage for a Bills quarterback in his first career start since Kelly threw for 292 yards against the New York Jets on September 7, 1986. My last girlfriend only weighed 215 lbs. since my previous two girlfriends were 250 and 275, clearly this is the best girlfriend I have had. Allen, thanks to a garbage time drive, is my least fat girlfriend. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 Gugny, I call it the way I see it, and if you are having trouble seeing things from London, then do something about it, and enjoy this mess (sorry, process) because I and a lot of others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Show me some evidence that they were friends, can you post some pictures of their families going on vacation together, then I'll agree they are friends. Though even then many times staff members do socialize together. They both worked together for the same team for a few seasons, that hardly makes them friends. They didn't go to college together or follow eachother from team to team. How many times do you hear a team hires a new HC and right away he brings some of his old staff with him. Rex brought half his Jets staff here. Marrone brought Hackett and then brought him to Jax too. Based on your definition, that must make them all friends too. Well if so, then yes all the teams are doing it. Bill Pollian had worked with Marv Levy in the CFL guess he hired his friend too. I do agree that TP forced two coaches on Whaley, if he was allowed to pick his own guy who would he likely have chosen, probably someone he had some type of prior relationship with previously. Polian was the GM first and then hired his head coach. I really don’t know many other times it has gone the other way. The GM’s main job is to hire a head coach. I can’t believe some fans think what the Bills have been doing is normal. It’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 If anyone thinks the entire NFL was trying to hire McDermott and Beane and the Bills got lucky, then maybe they should check out where they rank on the GM and HC pay scale in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 And Hogan had 2 touchdowns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gugny said: I wanna know what love is. I want you (Foreigner) to show me. Leave that dirty white boy alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 The entire NFL landscape is covered with ex Bills doing for their teams what they did not do for the Bills. Would the Bills have been better off with Alanzo rather than McCoy? Who knows. I just know we have not won with with McCoy and his production keeps going down hill because he has no OL to open space for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 54 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Could this be the worst thread of the month? Let’s wait and find out. I doubt it. Foreigner has a lot more idiotic threads in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Gugny, I call it the way I see it, and if you are having trouble seeing things from London, then do something about it, and enjoy this mess (sorry, process) because I and a lot of others don't. You’re bad at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 For those who think this is idiotic, enjoy spending your money at New Era this year, and we will see who the idiots are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) You make good points. It looks like the mentality was to clean up in the first few seasons. I didn't see the tank coming in the second season but I understand it. It doesn't mean that they are not aware of the situation and it has always been part of the game plan. You as a fan are not happy about it but I respect it. It is frustrating to see your team get destroyed. I think it will all make sense in a few seasons or it will crash and burn and the owners hit the reset button again. We are in a tank season I think. Edited September 20, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I don't really see it as a tank season, but more like a continuation of last season but with a young QB. The more reps he gets the better this offense will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I think foreigner makes some bad threads, but the fact that all you can do is insult him and not show he's wrong might be evidence of a problem here Edited September 20, 2018 by Ol Dirty B 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 You obviously don't know what a cap is! /s. This will be our ongoing excuse for years. How Whaley from the grave is embezzling cap money for a Watkins charity or something dumb like that. It's not a great excuse given how bad we are. The Jets were famously in cap hell where Tannenbaum's tenure was heavily publicized. We're not even close to that. What happened the year Tannenbaum left and the 2 following in this cap hell in 2013? 9-7, 4-12, 10-6, weird. That's a pretty quick process. "Prior to the season, the Jets made a number of moves, including, re-acquiring Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie, two cornerbacks who were instrumental in the Jets previous defensive success, and obtaining Ryan Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall in trades." sounds like they tried to get better and did. Are they still a poorly managed franchise? Yeah. But they got better and were attempting to rebuild simultaneously.. impossible! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, leonbus23 said: And Hogan had 2 touchdowns! Tune in next week when Reggie Ragland gets a sack! That should be good for at least 5 threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I think foreigner makes some bad threads, but the fact that all you can do is insult him and not show he's wrong might be evidence of a problem here Sums up how I feel. Give me the specifics on why we have to be so bad and how we can get better. I'm not seeing it with Beane in control. All I say is "we don't have to be this BAD. in fact we're not even trying".. and the amount of attacks with no specifics on how dumb I am is ridiculous. We didn't try to be any good, at least I hope not because if this is Beane trying then it's hopelessly incompetent. Those aren't "facts" but it's a true statement either way. So I beg the question and never get the answer, why do we have to suck so much and why are fans gravy about it. Please enlighten me without saying process. Tell me exactly what the best case scenario is for this year, next year, and the year after. What is going on in Beane's Mastermind head. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2018 All Bills Wrs 169 Yards, 1 TD Watkins 121 Yards, 0 TDs 2017 All Bills Wrs 1,474 Yards, 9 TDs Sammy 593 Yards, 8TDs 2016 All Bills Wrs 1,499 Yards, 8 TDs Watkins 430 Yards, 2 TDs (8 games) 2015 All Bills Wrs 1,303 Yards, 7 TDs Watkins 1,047 Yards, 9 TDs 2014 All Bills Wrs 1,267 Yards, 10 TDs Watkins 982 Yards, 6 TDs Total 2014-2018 All Bills Wrs 5,712 Yards, 35 TDs Watkins 3,173 Yards, 25 TDs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Josh used 11 different receivers and was the first rookie QB with the most passing yards since Jim Kelly. Mic drop That is what I want to see....spread the ball around ! Our WRs will have more catches and yards when Allen gets in sync with them during practice. We had the same situation 4 seasons ago when we had a 3-headed monster at QB in camp....No one could get in sync. This is where Darnold benefits because he has been working the #1s all through TC. Allen all the way! Cut your rookie mistakes by more practice and you will be fine 1 hour ago, Clyde Smith said: I don't really see it as a tank season, but more like a continuation of last season but with a young QB. The more reps he gets the better this offense will be. and with less talent this year. The loss on the OL will be too hard to overcome this year even if Allen is a better QB than Tyrod. 2 hours ago, Lfod said: I think it will all make sense in a few seasons or it will crash and burn and the owners hit the reset button again. We are in a tank season I think. This is how the NFL works! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Woods week 1: 3 for 36 Watkins week 1: 3 for 21 OP can cherry pick his stats, so can I. Proving that using one game to indict a decision is worthless. And I say that as one who would have liked to see Sammy stay. The OP also ignores that Woods got an 8 million a year deal, and that it was Whaley who did not negotiate an extension before he hit free agency. Plus it was widely reported he wanted to be back on the west coast. Sammy? He wanted the big contract, was coming off an injury that kept him out of ten games the prior year. They traded him, and the Rams also did not see him as worth a big contract so they also let him go. To akC. Who in game 1 paid a lot of money for 3 catches for 21 yards. The Rams had a rookie QB two seasons ago, did horribly, then they used their off season to draft and use FA to put more weapons around him. The Bills this season have a rookie QB, we'll see how he does, and have an offseason with a ton of draft picks and cap space to put more weapons around him. Just putting facts out there. Some folks here say not to just insult the OP but give evidence why he's wrong. There you go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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