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Would you draft Oliver or Bosa?

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Just for conversation....

 

Just assuming the Bill's get the first pick..which we certainly maynot..and your the GM would you draft Bosa or Oliver?

 

I dont watch alot of college so my expertise is limited to highlights...which means I have no clue...but Bosa obviously is a prolific pass rusher...but Oliver to me seems like more of an overall disruptive force.

 

Who would you guys rather have on the Bills?  

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I would draft Bosa. He is a stud. Better than his brother. 

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1 minute ago, wppete said:

I would draft Bosa. He is a stud. Better than his brother. 

Assuming Williams retires.  Would that change wanting a DE over a DT?

1 minute ago, BoldBully said:

Trade back with Oakland for there 2 first rounders and draft O-line and WR

I hear ya.  I'm all for that possibility as well.  Was just curious if we did stay there who would Bill's fans want between the two..just for fun.

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I'd have to watch them a lot more, but I would take Oliver on principle.

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1 minute ago, McBean said:

Trade back 100%.

 

We have too many holes.

We have 10 picks and almost 100m in cap space. If any QBs surprise and stand out in this class, I'm actually all for trading down b/c you can get a bounty, but not for that reason. 

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Stick at 1 and take Bosa. We need elite talent. 

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7 minutes ago, BoldBully said:

Trade back with Oakland for there 2 first rounders and draft O-line and WR

You might not be trading back that far...or may have to trade up. The Raiders look like a big ol' mess themselves.

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2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If this team gets the first pick in the draft and doesnt trade back, I will be sick.

Ding ding ding!  It might be the deepest defensive line draft in NFL history.  We have too many holes and if a deal is there which there likely will be, you trade back and get more picks.  I would rather have a top ten pick, a first in 2020 and additional picks in 2019 than either of those two. 

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Trading back doesn't always warrant success... Look how well it for the Browns when the Falcons moved up for Julio Jones (for Phil Taylor and crap), Bills for Watkins (Justin Gilbert and Cameron Erving), and Titans for Jack Conklin (Corey Coleman). 

 

So many of us have said how unfortunate it's been that we've been in the 7-9 range and blocked from taking an elite prospect in the past, and if we are this bad, what more would change our fortune than a top 5 pick? 

 

Ed Oliver looks like the next Aaron Donald to me. He would be my pick, but time will tell how things are looking. Last offseason was long enough, and this upcoming one will drag along worse. 

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Bosa 100%. Its all about edge pressure. I love Oliver obviously, but Bosa has to be the pick. 

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Trading back #1OP with one of the least talented rosters is foolish imo. Need premier talent and best way to do it is to pick it. Trading down isn’t the always the best way to build way, hell look all the talent Browns missed by trading back over the years

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35 minutes ago, McBean said:

Trade back 100%.

 

We have too many holes.

 

I’m good with that, but not out of the (pretty) sure fire stud range....whatever that may be. If there are, say, 12 top players, be sure you get one of those plus the other pick(s). We can still get a difference maker rather than far more maybe’s. 

1 minute ago, billsfan2298 said:

If we had the first pick, are there any really good QBs that a team would try to trade up for?

 

Who is the guy from (is it) Oregon?  Problem is, most of the worst teams have picked a QB recently, so they’d have more work to do to trade up. 

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As I said...if for whatever reason the Bill's decided to stay at one and if it was between these two who would u take  I know alot of people on the board like Bosa and for good reason..but I havent heard much about Oliver...curious on your guys thoughts on him.

 

Thanks for the replies good discussion so far.

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Bosa for me (assuming no trade back). He’s a guy that’s getting 12+ sacks the day he gets there. He is a guy that transforms the entire defense. You see what Khalil Mack is doing in Chicago. Elite pass rushers change games.

 

Ed Oliver is one of the best college players that I can remember but the position value just isn’t there to me. He’s going to be a phenomenal pro but I don’t think that he can transform a defense like Bosa can. 

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6 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

Trading back doesn't always warrant success... Look how well it for the Browns when the Falcons moved up for Julio Jones (for Phil Taylor and crap), Bills for Watkins (Justin Gilbert and Cameron Erving), and Titans for Jack Conklin (Corey Coleman). 

 

So many of us have said how unfortunate it's been that we've been in the 7-9 range and blocked from taking an elite prospect in the past, and if we are this bad, what more would change our fortune than a top 5 pick? 

 

Ed Oliver looks like the next Aaron Donald to me. He would be my pick, but time will tell how things are looking. Last offseason was long enough, and this upcoming one will drag along worse. 

I see what you are saying about the Browns, but their problem was they kept passing on good QB's.  We took our shot at our QB and won't be drafting one early next year. 

 

Ed Oliver looks like a great prospect but considering where this team is right now, I would rather take my chances with a haul of high picks and many prospects, one of which would still probably be top 10, than hoping one prospect is able to avoid injuries and and hit his high end potential.  This team needs offense so bad and like I said it's a deep draft for defensive lineman.

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