Teddy KGB Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: They've played the Steelers and the Saints and they have a better record than us... Maybe it's time to move on. That defense is LEGIT. Bring in the Baker to get those dubs ! 3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I mean.. he is doing better than last year. Is that not true? He's missed kicks away from being 2-0 221 ypg > 56 ypg. He’s on fire ! Upgraded from “suck” to “poor” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: That defense is LEGIT. Bring in the Baker to get those dubs ! Should be legit with all the top draft picks on it ?? Edited September 18, 2018 by SouthNYfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, Foxx said: when it comes to certain qb's, yes. Rodgers is a franchise QB, quite possibly the best in the league. sure he could be the reason in some games but he sure as hell wasn't in the Vikings game. i'm not trying to be mean here but if you can't see that, i am sorry, there is nothing i would be able to say to you that would make you understand that. you either get it or you don't. I can absolutely say that Rodgers is a far superior QB. No doubt. But blaming one QB for getting in FG range and the kicker missing it and the other gets a pass seems inconsistent to me. Would seem to be consistent to me to either say A) It's not Hotrod's fault the dude missed the kick nor is Aaron's. -or- B) Hotrod blew it and so did Aaron (on this any given Sunday). That's my point. i'm not trying to be mean here but if you can't see that, i am sorry, there is nothing i would be able to say to you that would make you understand that. you either get it or you don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Mark80 said: Couldn't win a game where his defense gave him 6 turnovers to work with. That's embarrassing. Hes still terrible as ever. You would think any qb not named Tyrod would have won the Playoff game (only needing 10 pts) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, K-9 said: Yeah, but an 80 sack pace after two weeks? Is he staying in the pocket more? I honestly don’t know. Aiming for Carr's record of 70 something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Aiming for Carr's record of 70 something. That's the last thing I'd want for TT. I'm rooting for the guy. I was just wondering if the high number after two games was because he's staying in the pocket and getting sacked or if he's getting caught behind the line of scrimmage on scrambles. But man, Carr got beaten like a rented mule his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: That's the last thing I'd want for TT. I'm rooting for the guy. I was just wondering if the high number after two games was because he's staying in the pocket and getting sacked or if he's getting caught behind the line of scrimmage on scrambles. But man, Carr got beaten like a rented mule his rookie year. I don't want TT hurt, I liked him while he was here. But he walks into sacks on his own. Seeing a lot of bad OLine play this year. Seattle almost made Buffalo's O-line look passable last night. Putrid O-line play across the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: I got to be pleasantly surprised with the positives I saw out of Josh Allen instead of watching Tyrod tragically piss away 6 forced TOs to a tie game. Wasn't even really a question of Josh Allen or Tyrod. It was Nathan Peterman or Tyrod. It's relatively clear now that Beane and McDermott's "plan" was to have Allen sit on the bench and learn for a while. The problem is they fell victim to foolishly believing that Tyrod's "veteran presence" could be so easily replaced that they waited for the scraps of the QBs in vet FA to get AJ McCarron. And then McCarron couldn't beat out or even really play up to the level of a rookie and a 2nd year pick-machine. This very much is the same type of situation we had with Fitz. We didn't have to get rid of Fitz just like we didn't have to get rid of Taylor. But for both situations, the regimes of that time falsely viewed both Fitz and Taylor as easily replaceable. NFL starting QBs just are NOT easy to come by. And like Taylor or not, he's an NFL starting QB. Just like Fitz was and is. Hindsight is 20/20, but it's pretty evident at this point that McDermott and Beane are regretting trading Taylor when they still would have had enough ammunition to trade up to get Allen at #7 in the draft. Now, personally I'm very happy with Allen as our starter over the idea of keeping Taylor and letting Allen ride the pine, but I also think that rookie QBs have no reason NOT to be on the field starting right away if you're willing to draft them in the top 10. The rules of the NFL are now so QB friendly that I think the David Carr effect is incredibly unlikely for QBs with that genuinely Elite potential worthy of spending a top 10 draft choice. I agree with you. I'd rather see Allen on the field now with the Bills than Taylor. But that doesn't change the fact now it's clear that this was never remotely the plan and if McDermott and Beane could rewind time knowing the outcome of all events up to now and NOT trade Taylor while still drafting a QB high in the 1st, that's what they would have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: I don't want TT hurt, I liked him while he was here. But he walks into sacks on his own. Seeing a lot of bad OLine play this year. Seattle almost made Buffalo's O-line look passable last night. Putrid O-line play across the NFL. Good points, all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Wasn't even really a question of Josh Allen or Tyrod. It was Nathan Peterman or Tyrod. It's relatively clear now that Beane and McDermott's "plan" was to have Allen sit on the bench and learn for a while. The problem is they fell victim to foolishly believing that Tyrod's "veteran presence" could be so easily replaced that they waited for the scraps of the QBs in vet FA to get AJ McCarron. And then McCarron couldn't beat out or even really play up to the level of a rookie and a 2nd year pick-machine. This very much is the same type of situation we had with Fitz. We didn't have to get rid of Fitz just like we didn't have to get rid of Taylor. But for both situations, the regimes of that time falsely viewed both Fitz and Taylor as easily replaceable. NFL starting QBs just are NOT easy to come by. And like Taylor or not, he's an NFL starting QB. Just like Fitz was and is. Hindsight is 20/20, but it's pretty evident at this point that McDermott and Beane are regretting trading Taylor when they still would have had enough ammunition to trade up to get Allen at #7 in the draft. Now, personally I'm very happy with Allen as our starter over the idea of keeping Taylor and letting Allen ride the pine, but I also think that rookie QBs have no reason NOT to be on the field starting right away if you're willing to draft them in the top 10. The rules of the NFL are now so QB friendly that I think the David Carr effect is incredibly unlikely for QBs with that genuinely Elite potential worthy of spending a top 10 draft choice. I agree with you. I'd rather see Allen on the field now with the Bills than Taylor. But that doesn't change the fact now it's clear that this was never remotely the plan and if McDermott and Beane could rewind time knowing the outcome of all events up to now and NOT trade Taylor while still drafting a QB high in the 1st, that's what they would have done. I don’t care if it was the plan or not. I’m glad TT is gone. A third round pick AND I don’t have to watch him? Is it Christmas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I don’t care if it was the plan or not. I’m glad TT is gone. A third round pick AND I don’t have to watch him? Is it Christmas? And $7.6 mil in dead cap space this year Still well worth it Good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: 221 ypg > 56 ypg. He’s on fire ! Upgraded from “suck” to “poor” ypg doesn't mean yards per 2017 Saints game haha. I don't give a flying **** about Tyrod. He upgraded from suck to poor that's what I said. Great conversation all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: ypg doesn't mean yards per 2017 Saints game haha. I don't give a flying **** about Tyrod. He upgraded from suck to poor that's what I said. Great conversation all around Fitz hung 20,000 yards on the Saints the week before. Tyrod hovered around 100 all day and made a few lucky plays at the end to end up with a whopping 240 yards ???. Hes still garbage. It’s still all lol’s at the Tyrod lovers of tsw. If his week 1 Browns debacle happened here after the debacle in Jacksonville he would be benched again. 6 turnovers and can’t win ????? hot ????? Edited September 18, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Fitz hung 20,000 yards on the Saints the week before. Tyrod hovered around 100 all day and made a few lucky plays at the end to end up with a whopping 240 yards ???. Hes still garbage. It’s still all lol’s at the Tyrod lovers of tsw. If his week 1 Browns debacle happened here after the debacle in Jacksonville he would be benched again. 6 turnovers and can’t win ????? hot ????? Ok.. you're right lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: https://youtu.be/EJ5-Q69gQ6U Browns Fans Speak about TT That was quick, 2 games. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, pop gun said: That was quick, 2 games. Lol Ahaha that guys smarter than many bills fans. Only took him two games to figure it out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: I don’t care if it was the plan or not. I’m glad TT is gone. A third round pick AND I don’t have to watch him? Is it Christmas? We know you are. Keep screaming it to the world like a juvenile about a player who really has nothing to do with you or us anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teddy KGB Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Ahaha that guys smarter than many bills fans. Only took him two games to figure it out That damn 4th and 5 Hail Mary gonna cost those poor Browns fans and Browns defense to sit through another Taylor start. I’d set the Tyrod bench line at week 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 hours ago, GoBills808 said: And who wouldn't want a QB who can put the team in a position to lose based on a kick, right? Um....well, we kind of think a lot of Kelly in these parts, usually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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