prissythecat Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: If he made the 53 his salary was fully guaranteed. He can just claim he has a injury. Seems unlikely. There would need to be an independent verification of injury and not just a player's claims right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Seems unlikely. There would need to be an independent verification of injury and not just a player's claims right? Thought he was "reinjured" in preseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: Thought he was "reinjured" in preseason? Regardless , the Bills should get back most of the money : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/9/17/17869020/buffalo-bills-can-recoup-nearly-all-vontae-davis-contract-money-following-retirement-signing-bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Regardless , the Bills should get back most of the money : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/9/17/17869020/buffalo-bills-can-recoup-nearly-all-vontae-davis-contract-money-following-retirement-signing-bonus I'd like to see what the contract said about injury. He'll probably give it back, but it shows how bad a GM Beane has been already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Well, it spoffed the hell out of this hungover fan.Lol being hung over is always an acceptable excuse. 3 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: I'd like to see what the contract said about injury. He'll probably give it back, but it shows how bad a GM Beane has been already. most times it is just better to quit while your behind. and i'm referring to you, not Vontae.... Edited September 17, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: being hung over is always an acceptable excuse. most times it is just better to quit while your behind. and i'm referring to you, not Vontae.... Behind in what? My personal thoughts? We disagree, that's fine. Be a man and understand I don't have to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: I'd like to see what the contract said about injury. He'll probably give it back, but it shows how bad a GM Beane has been already. The narrative is amazing......anything to paint Beane in a bad light right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: The narrative is amazing......anything to paint Beane in a bad light right? I'm not doing the painting, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: I'm not doing the painting, he is. Says someone with an axe to grind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Behind in what? My personal thoughts? We disagree, that's fine. Be a man and understand I don't have to agree with you. i am being a man. your right, you don't have to agree with me. but to sit there and try to defend your position that Vontae will somehow claim injury to get his salary is that of being off on a lark to a large degree. especially when he was not injured when he left the field. again, just my opinion but you are off in left field trying to defend a ludacris position. you may be right but even if he claims that, he has an uphill battle. Edited September 17, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Says someone with an axe to grind You want to deflect from the issues on the team and make it about me. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: i am being a man. your right, you don't have to agree with me. but to sit there and try to defend your position that Vontae will somehow claim injury to get his salary is that of being off on a lark to a large degree. especially when he was not injured when he left the field. again, just my opinion but you are off in left field trying to defend a ludacris position. With Cuddy I really think this is more about an agenda against the GM then it is anything else....Vonte could get paid, not get paid....it wont matter....the GM screwed up by signing a former pro bowler to a 5 million dollar contract. Just now, CuddyDark said: You want to deflect from the issues on the team and make it about me. I get it. The issues of the team is they are rebiulding...it really is as simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: i am being a man. your right, you don't have to agree with me. but to sit there and try to defend your position that Vontae will somehow claim injury to get his salary is that of being off on a lark to a large degree. especially when he was not injured when he left the field. again, just my opinion but you are off in left field trying to defend a ludacris position. Well his salary was guaranteed. I didn't claim anything. I said if he want to keep the money he could say he's injured. I was just thinking of all his possibilities. 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: With Cuddy I really think this is more about an agenda against the GM then it is anything else....Vonte could get paid, not get paid....it wont matter....the GM screwed up by signing a former pro bowler to a 5 million dollar contract. The issues of the team is they are rebiulding...it really is as simple as that Listen I'm on record saying they're going to win 4 or 5 games. I don't care that they are rebuilding. I care who is in charge of that rebuild. You have blind faith. I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: Well his salary was guaranteed. I didn't claim anything. I said if he want to keep the money he could say he's injured. I was just thinking of all his possibilities. Listen I'm on record saying they're going to win 4 or 5 games. I don't care that they are rebuilding. I care who is in charge of that rebuild. You have blind faith. I do not. So its not "your guy" that is doing the rebiuld.....glad we cleared that up. Now I understand the constant degrading of everything Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Well his salary was guaranteed. I didn't claim anything. I said if he want to keep the money he could say he's injured. I was just thinking of all his possibilities. ... alright, no worries. i was basing my understanding upon your subsequent posts trying to back up your position that he would claim injury to get his salary. my apologies if my perception was off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: So its not "your guy" that is doing the rebiuld.....glad we cleared that up. Now I understand the constant degrading of everything Beane. My guy? What has he done? What players have he signed that give you hope for his future with the team? My guy? What doesn't that even mean? You are putting it on faith and hope that he will do something different in the future. What has he done? What has his traded players done? What has his signed players done? What has his draft picks done? Tell me where I should believe in the guy. Tell me and maybe I will see it your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: My guy? What has he done? What players have he signed that give you hope for his future with the team? My guy? What doesn't that even mean? You are putting it on faith and hope that he will do something different in the future. What has he done? What has his traded players done? What has his signed players done? What has his draft picks done? Tell me where I should believe in the guy. Tell me and maybe I will see it your way. Some of his free agents have not panned out.....but some of them it is too early to tell....we are TWO GAMES into a season. Did he not bring in free agents last year that contibuted to this team like E. J. Gaines? And his drafts are looking pretty good right now.....just like all GM's there are some hits and misses....we are in a REBIULD..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Some of his free agents have not panned out.....but some of them it is too early to tell....we are TWO GAMES into a season. Did he not bring in free agents last year that contibuted to this team like E. J. Gaines? And his drafts are looking pretty good right now.....just like all GM's there are some hits and misses....we are in a REBIULD..... So we should take it on faith he will be good in 2019 because he traded for E.J. Gaines? Also we could tell Hyde and Poyer were going to be good after game 1 2017. We could tell Tre White was going to be good after game 1 2017. People believe he will become better as a measure of faith and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 For Vontae's response in the locker room when told that his 1st half was unacceptable... https://giphy.com/gifs/rWbIF9rfkV4NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: So we should take it on faith he will be good in 2019 because he traded for E.J. Gaines? Also we could tell Hyde and Poyer were going to be good after game 1 2017. We could tell Tre White was going to be good after game 1 2017. People believe he will become better as a measure of faith and nothing more. I think it is simply too early to tell....it def is too early to call it a failure...you dont have a leg to stand on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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