McBean Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Star and Murphy signings were horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Really did it. Hmmm ok how much are you paying Star and Dareus in cap hit RIGHT now? what about QB with McCarron and Tyrod in Cap hit right now. Rolled over 6 last year from Darius saved 2 this year. Totals 8 Star gets 6. Trading Tyrod saved 10 million. You are right though AJ costs us 2. Could 2 million more have made us a playoff contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: How would you have filled 10 holes with 20 mil? hmmm. perhaps you don't create the holes to begin with? Perhaps you retain some draft choices so you can bring in offensive lineman? Perhaps you don't allocate to one defensive tackle? Perhaps if you had even a little bit of money, you put it to work where the biggest holes occurred last offseason, and sign an All-Pro center instead of Russ Bodine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 3:54 PM, Pete said: 2019 free agent class- Taylor Lewan! Tennessee would be crazy to let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: hmmm. perhaps you don't create the holes to begin with? Perhaps you retain some draft choices so you can bring in offensive lineman? Perhaps you don't allocate to one defensive tackle? Perhaps if you had even a little bit of money, you put it to work where the biggest holes occurred last offseason, and sign an All-Pro center instead of Russ Bodine? That plan would have been impossible. We didn’t have the cap for it. But we could have held off on drafting a QB, gotten a few more picks. But then we are in the boat of hoping to maybe have a QB someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Batman1876 said: That plan would have been impossible. We didn’t have the cap for it. But we could have held off on drafting a QB, gotten a few more picks. But then we are in the boat of hoping to maybe have a QB someday. Or they could have drafted Mahomes last season without trading a thing... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Batman1876 said: Rolled over 6 last year from Darius saved 2 this year. Totals 8 Star gets 6. Trading Tyrod saved 10 million. You are right though AJ costs us 2. Could 2 million more have made us a playoff contender? Dareus costing 13 star another 6. So 20M there. With Dareus and not star there is another 7M in cap space The. Another 9M in dead cap and 2m next year in QB. But hey your right i mean they didnt make the playoffs last year. But thats right they are rebuilding so so glad they have out Star and Murphy and McCarron contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, vincec said: Or they could have drafted Mahomes last season without trading a thing... just saying. Beane couldn’t have. 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Dareus costing 13 star another 6. So 20M there. With Dareus and not star there is another 7M in cap space The. Another 9M in dead cap and 2m next year in QB. But hey your right i mean they didnt make the playoffs last year. But thats right they are rebuilding so so glad they have out Star and Murphy and McCarron contracts Your math is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I guess, but is Beane really at fault for Vontae quitting mid-game? How many times has that even happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Beane couldn’t have. Your math is wrong. Go check the dead money on spotrac. With Now DT is costing over 20M. With Dareus and Star in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Go check the dead money on spotrac. With Now DT is costing over 20M. With Dareus and Star in cap space Darius would have cost 16 mil, he also saved us 6 mil last year which we rolled over into this year that adds up to 22. That’s a savings of 2 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 No reason for Beane to trade away Sammy and Dareus. This board can say all they want but Sammy, Gilmore, Dareus, Darby are all starting in this league and the Bills have the highest paid FB and an overpaid Star. Add a WR playing for the Patriots on the Bills payroll, a blown comp pick for a bunch of crap free agents, and complete failures of Murphy, Bodine, and AJ. It is about as bad a start to a GM tenure as you can imagine. Again, none of this matters if Allen is the guy. We won't care in 2020 how bad the O-line was in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Dadonkadonk said: No reason for Beane to trade away Sammy and Dareus. This board can say all they want but Sammy, Gilmore, Dareus, Darby are all starting in this league and the Bills have the highest paid FB and an overpaid Star. Add a WR playing for the Patriots on the Bills payroll, a blown comp pick for a bunch of crap free agents, and complete failures of Murphy, Bodine, and AJ. It is about as bad a start to a GM tenure as you can imagine. Again, none of this matters if Allen is the guy. We won't care in 2020 how bad the O-line was in 2018. It will matter if Allen gets destroyed like David Carr because he has a crap team around him, especially that 2018 OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, vincec said: It will matter if Allen gets destroyed like David Carr because he has a crap team around him, especially that 2018 OL. David Carr was going to suck no matter what. Allen will be fine. The biggest problem will be knowing he has time in the pocket and not sensing phantom pressure when they add three new OL next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: That plan would have been impossible. We didn’t have the cap for it. But we could have held off on drafting a QB, gotten a few more picks. But then we are in the boat of hoping to maybe have a QB someday. Mike Pouncey, three time Pro Bowl center, signed a two year, $15MM contract with the Chargers. Not signing him was a decision; it was valuing improvement in the defensive line over improving our offensive line. Sorry, but you are wrong. It was entirely possible. We settled for a center that has NEVER been any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Dadonkadonk said: David Carr was going to suck no matter what. Allen will be fine. The biggest problem will be knowing he has time in the pocket and not sensing phantom pressure when they add three new OL next year. Exactly. He will develop bad habits. Looking at the rush, throwing too quickly, not setting his feet, etc. Forget that he might actually get injured if he runs it 8 times per game and gets hit 20 more on passes like today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: Mike Pouncey, three time Pro Bowl center, signed a two year, $15MM contract with the Chargers. Not signing him was a decision; it was valuing improvement in the defensive line over improving our offensive line. Sorry, but you are wrong. It was entirely possible. We settled for a center that has NEVER been any good. Who would we have cut to sign him? That’s what makes your plan impossible. We were spent to the cap with roster no room for the contract without cutting someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 They gave the defense Star, Murphy, Davis and Edmunds in Rd 1. They gave the offense and Josh Allen....Chris Ivory. Atrocious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, vincec said: It will matter if Allen gets destroyed like David Carr because he has a crap team around him, especially that 2018 OL. Ahhhh the good old Carr analogys that means ABSOLUTELY Nothing 2 minutes ago, vincec said: Exactly. He will develop bad habits. Looking at the rush, throwing too quickly, not setting his feet, etc. Forget that he might actually get injured if he runs it 8 times per game and gets hit 20 more on passes like today. So why didnt all this mysterious stuff happen to Jared Goff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Ahhhh the good old Carr analogys that means ABSOLUTELY Nothing Sure. That's why all these rookie QBs are starting around the league. Means nothing!!! lol Stupid coaches. Edited September 17, 2018 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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