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I agree with OP.  I even want to n8 to start game 2.  Let JA come in with no pressure and leave with confidence like he did yesterday.  

 

As for why bench TT last year likely because they were moving on from him amd wanted to evaluate in house talent.  My question is why so little Peterman in the late games as that would have saved us time this summer; the answer is that everyone wanted 17 to jot he 18.

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Let Peterman self-destruct against SD and MIN.    GB might a good spot to hand it over to Allen..  on the road against a poor defense.      I could live with that.

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I agree with the OP. There is NO WAY they put Allen in the game early in the 3rd quarter if their confidence in Peterman was that high and theyre afraid of ruining Allen. I am 99.999999999999999% sure Allen will start from here on out. In some type of strange way, this was the best case scenario for the bills coaches. 

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54 minutes ago, chris heff said:

McDermott is still thinking of starting Peterman. That tells you all you need.

I genuinely do not believe another team in the entire league would entertain adding Peterman to their roster in any capacity.

 

But McDermott is thinking he might start here in Week 2.

 

McD is such a typical football guy.

 

Peterman is "their guy" and they believe in him.  They are going to stick with him no matter how bad he is.  The guy literally can't get through a complete football game!  

 

And here he is being considered as next week's starter.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

I genuinely do not believe another team in the entire league would entertain adding Peterman to their roster in any capacity.

 

But McDermott is thinking he might start here in Week 2.

 

McD is such a typical football guy.

 

Peterman is "their guy" and they believe in him.  They are going to stick with him no matter how bad he is.  The guy literally can't get through a complete football game!  

 

And here he is being considered as next week's starter.

 

 

If he starts it’s only because they think it’s the best way to develop Allen. I don’t think it is a “Peterman is our guy”  thing. The most they think of Peterman is that he could some day be Allen’s backup. 

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Soon as Allen struggles people will jump all over it. Peterman wasn't good but the entire team was bad and most people use Peterman as a scapegoat.

 

Allen isn't going to like starting 1st and 15 or 20 either because stupid penalties. Shady breaks a run finally oh wait some one holding made it happen so it doesn't count.

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You guys (mostly) wanted to end the streak and get your QB.  You did both.  So why all the emo carping about this season?  It is what is.  Call it tank, rebuild or process.  Deal with it like grown men.  Gosh.  One would think we wpuld collectively have thick ass skin by now.  

Those bitching - do you really want about 8-8 again this season?  3-13 and growing would be better than another feckless 8-8.  

Tank?  Nah.  It looks like will work itself out.  Go.with it.  Always forward and never straight; or something.

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If Josh Allen turns into a top 10 QB then they CAN evaluate QB talent. Let's start that show and see what happens.

 

 

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13 hours ago, pi2000 said:

 

The huge boner was trading away the only experienced QB on the roster in AJ... that said, an even bigger boner was not bringing in a seasoned veteran to tutor Allen (and Peterman).    You could also argue they should've kept TT around along with drafting Allen.    

 

But to trade TT, and then trade AJ leaving the reins to a 5th rnd second year pro and a rookie, without doing anything to beef up the OL, just reeks of incompetence.  

Can't argue with that.

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I think they were caught flat footed by Richie and that was the fatal blow to the line.

 

If you have Richie in, you have an all pro quality LG, with eases Dawkins in at LT, the hope was it allows the "winner" between Groy and Bodine to be passable, same with Miller/Ducasse/Teller winner at RG and Mills/Newhouse winner at RT.

 

Ride Shady behind a just good enough oline, play a ball control offense with easy reads to ease the QB in.

 

Suddenly Richie remembers he's Richie (or doesn't have Wood in his ear anymore), that's the jenga block that sends the entire oline crashing and it was too late in the process to recover.

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McDumbass passed on Mahomes so I do not believe he can evaluate QBs. It’s my opinion that Mahomes was clearly a superior prospect compared to Allen. (Yes I know they came out a year apart)

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16 hours ago, Batman1876 said:

That is how you win unless you have a good QB. If Allen is good you'll stop hearing it.

 

The Minnesota Vikings would beg to differ.  Check out their record since 2000 ... and then see who was under center for them.  Except for bringing in Favre for a season or two at the end of his career, their QBs have mostly been mediocre.   Last year, they were a game short of going to the Super Bowl with backup Case Keenum as their QB.

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We should signed a better bridge QB like Matt Moore or something. Peterman is horrific in every sense of the word. His teammates know it and so does the rest of the NFL.

 

49 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

McDumbass passed on Mahomes so I do not believe he can evaluate QBs. It’s my opinion that Mahomes was clearly a superior prospect compared to Allen. (Yes I know they came out a year apart)

 

They didn't even look at him which is infuriating. Only QB they liked was Trubisky who I like but it was easy to see Mahomes was special. Everything Allen does he does better.

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McCoach will be the first to go unless he changes his ways. And it's ridiculous to write that given how long he's been an assistant, a coordinator, and now a HC in the NFL. If he doesn't reinvent himself he'll end up like Jauron, albeit with far less time in the league.  And that means getting away from being a defense first, conservative offense type who doesn't take risks and believes it's better to have choir boys who trust the process than talented types.

 

This franchise is a mile away from competing. Some is the result of a previous flawed GM who wrote checks that are now coming due. But both the GM and HC are not demonstrating anything other than how to tear down a roster and rebuild the long way.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

The Minnesota Vikings would beg to differ.  Check out their record since 2000 ... and then see who was under center for them.  Except for bringing in Favre for a season or two at the end of his career, their QBs have mostly been mediocre.   Last year, they were a game short of going to the Super Bowl with backup Case Keenum as their QB.

I was saying when you don’t have a good QB then defense and running the ball is how you win. Are you disagreeing with that?  Most of the Vickings success since 2000 came behind good defense and AP running the ball. 

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What a lot of you guys are overlooking is that McD is the head coach who is also defensive minded.  So he is probably leaving it up to Daboll, Juan Castillio to decide which QB plays and if they are ready to start.     

 

McD might make the announcement but I think he is trusting his coordinators to make the decisions on who to play and why. I think we will see Peterman again because the coaches feel that Josh Allen simply isn't ready to start.  

 

Besides that, it's okay to let Peterman get his arse handed to him for a few more games.  :lol: Start Allen after the Vikings game. 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

What a lot of you guys are overlooking is that McD is the head coach who is also defensive minded.  So he is probably leaving it up to Daboll, Juan Castillio to decide which QB plays and if they are ready to start.     

 

McD might make the announcement but I think he is trusting his coordinators to make the decisions on who to play and why. I think we will see Peterman again because the coaches feel that Josh Allen simply isn't ready to start.  

 

Besides that, it's okay to let Peterman get his arse handed to him for a few more games.  :lol: Start Allen after the Vikings game. 

 

 

 

The only thing I’d trust Daboll with is ordering the Chinese food.

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4 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

The only thing I’d trust Daboll with is ordering the Chinese food.

After Sunday's game, I tend to agree with you as Daboll's offense looked lost. The run game stunk and there was no answer for Peterman falling on his face for over half of the game.

 

Although I can't forget reading about him in the offseason that some are already thinking about him being the next really good head coach in the NFL.   

 

I gotta wonder when McD is saying he needs to "look at the tape" is he thinking do I need to fire my OC again and get rid of the run game coordinator/ line coach in Castillio? 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

After Sunday's game, I tend to agree with you as Daboll's offense looked lost. The run game stunk and there was no answer for Peterman falling on his face for over half of the game.

 

Although I can't forget reading about him in the offseason that some are already thinking about him being the next really good head coach in the NFL.   

 

I gotta wonder when McD is saying he needs to "look at the tape" is he thinking do I need to fire my OC again and get rid of the run game coordinator/ line coach in Castillio? 

 

 

If he keeps starting Nate and fires another OC people are going to start questioning his mental health. Daboll didn’t impress Sunday, he is not a guy I would have hired anyways. I would have given McAdoo a shower and a haircut then hired him. Maybe they should bring him in as “passing game coordinator” for now. 

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