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Just now, Soda Popinski said:

I think it starts with firing Castillo.   No sense buying new ingredients if your chef can't cook. 

 

Yep.  It's been a disaster since he's been here.  They don't have a lot of talent up front but a lot of teams are lacking in talent on the Offensive line.  Ours just looks really, really, really bad.  

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Ryan Kalil C 34 CAR TBD $8,375,000 UFA -
Mike Iupati G 32 ARI TBD $8,000,000 UFA -
Andy Levitre G 33 ATL TBD $7,800,000 UFA -
Jared Veldheer RT 32 DEN TBD $7,000,000 UFA -
Rodger Saffold G 31 LA TBD $6,269,447 UFA -
Bobby Massie RT 29 CHI TBD $6,000,000 UFA -
James Carpenter G 30 NYJ TBD $4,775,000 UFA

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Hoping some of these don't re sign

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Yep.  It's been a disaster since he's been here.  They don't have a lot of talent up front but a lot of teams are lacking in talent on the Offensive line.  Ours just looks really, really, really bad.  

It regressed last year with Incognito and Wood.  We didn't lose any players from the #1 rushing attack in football and we got worse, so he's definitely a big part of the problem.    Miller was doing fine until he got here, brought Vlad in, and mucked everything up.

 

need more evidence, look at how much BETTER Baltimore's oline is without him!  

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5 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:
Ryan Kalil C 34 CAR TBD $8,375,000 UFA -
Mike Iupati G 32 ARI TBD $8,000,000 UFA -
Andy Levitre G 33 ATL TBD $7,800,000 UFA -
Jared Veldheer RT 32 DEN TBD $7,000,000 UFA -
Rodger Saffold G 31 LA TBD $6,269,447 UFA -
Bobby Massie RT 29 CHI TBD $6,000,000 UFA -
James Carpenter G 30 NYJ TBD $4,775,000 UFA

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Hoping some of these don't re sign

 

Ryan Kalil already announced he will be retiring at the end of the season. 

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I don't see many names on that list that are going to significantly improve us.  Getting older doesn't always mean getting better.   

 

Invest a couple decent draft picks in the oline.    We have 10 picks, do we need 10 rookies?  Not really no.   So trade some picks, move up and get guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds that can help this team. 

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5 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

I don't see many names on that list that are going to significantly improve us.  Getting older doesn't always mean getting better.   

 

Invest a couple decent draft picks in the oline.    We have 10 picks, do we need 10 rookies?  Not really no.   So trade some picks, move up and get guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds that can help this team. 

 

No but they can be solid gap fillers for the next 2-3 years while we draft long term replacements

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Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said:

 

No but they can be solid gap fillers for the next 2-3 years while we draft long term replacements

As long as they're not huge money deals.   That last thing we need to do is go from being in good shape cap wise to crap with overpriced FAs. 

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33 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:
Ryan Kalil C 34 CAR TBD $8,375,000 UFA -
Mike Iupati G 32 ARI TBD $8,000,000 UFA -
Andy Levitre G 33 ATL TBD $7,800,000 UFA -
Jared Veldheer RT 32 DEN TBD $7,000,000 UFA -
Rodger Saffold G 31 LA TBD $6,269,447 UFA -
Bobby Massie RT 29 CHI TBD $6,000,000 UFA -
James Carpenter G 30 NYJ TBD $4,775,000 UFA

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Hoping some of these don't re sign

Somebody alluded to it earlier but Kalil of course will be retiring.  Iupati may have a resurgent 2018 but he has been plagued by injuries most of the last 3 years and will be entering year #10 next year (Levitre year #11).  Veldheer has also seen his career- and play- severely affected by injuries over multiple seasons.  Massie is certainly an upgrade over Mills but he doesn't move the needle much; he's largely ineffective.  Carpenter, like Massie, would upgrade us.  But again like Massie it says immeasurably more about what we have than it does about Carpenter.

 

Saffold holds some intrigue.  His effort was questioned earlier in his career but he's mostly been good and last year he was great, an All Pro even.  He'll be 31 but interior linemen generally age better and he could be very solid for a few years, similar to Incognito.

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OLine free agent class doesn't look very impressive to me. Pretty much old guys that we shouldn't touch or underachieving young guys that probably aren't worth pursuing. Seems like a decently strong offensive tackle draft class though so there's at least that. Thankfully, three of the things that Buffalo needs most: WRs, O-Line, and pass-rush appear to all be pretty strong in the upcoming draft where Buffalo will certainly be picking early.

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There are some offensive linemen who were not mentioned but who deserve more attention than most of the players on that list:  Buccaneers' guard Ali Marpet and Vikings' center/guard Brett Jones.  Marpet is already an established top 10-15 guard (with vast experience at center, too) and if he escapes the franchise tag will probably hit the market after some of the contracts Tampa Bay has doled out recently.   Sure, he's a prime candidate to get $14-15 million a year when he should probably get $11-12.  But he's high-quality, getting better, and the contract would look better in time with a continually rising cap.

 

And then Jones actually played pretty well at center for the Giants last year, especially surrounded by very poor linemen (it's the consensus that he was their last best lineman last year).  In fact, many Giants fans were flabbergasted by both the new coaching staff's decision to not give him (what the fans perceived to be) a "fair shake" at starting again and then trading him to the Vikings, where he started yesterday.

 

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/8/26/17784300/big-blue-view-more-brett-jones-minnesota-vikings-new-york-giants

For the record, Marpet will be 26 at the start of next season and Jones will have just turned 28, both of which are pluses, clearly.

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