Dr. K Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) . . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead. This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him, even one praising him, will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously. There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. Edited August 29, 2018 by Dr. K 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The only way to erase it is to play some games and get some wins. Even then some here will never let it go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He has a chance to prove to us that he has the poise and the movement in the pocket to make the GOOD throws necessary. Do that against the Ravens IN Baltimore and against the Chargers and come close or win, it will be forgotten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr. K said: . . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead. This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously. There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. Seriously? You do know that QBs in today's NFL do not call their own plays, right? So, to say "he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod" is BS. Make no mistake about it, Peterman will "never live it down" because nobody fans will make sure of it. Mark my words, it won't be long before Josh Allen starts to collect his very own band of hangmen just waiting to hang him every chance THEY get. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Didn’t Peyton Manning have a 6 pick game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) He tied the record for most picks in a first start in half a game. It's going to be on him forever the only thing he can change is the perception of it. If he somehow becomes very successful in the league it's a funny anecdote if he flames out then it was a sign of things to come. Edited August 29, 2018 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Peterman was under fire possibly worse than Allen was during PS game #3. Young guys need SOME help. It was sad to humorous, but it was real. Ugh.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Success said: Didn’t Peyton Manning have a 6 pick game? Yes, he did; and against the Chargers, as well. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/3647-colts-chargers-a-nightmare-game-for-peyton-manning So did Fitzy. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/25/ryan-fitzpatricks-six-interceptions-amazed-the-internet/?utm_term=.d851ea38529c Edited August 29, 2018 by Happy Gilmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Peterman was under fire possibly worse than Allen was during PS game #3. Young guys need SOME help. It was sad to humorous, but it was real. Ugh.... What you saw was a lack of pocket mobility, total panic, a complete loss of composure, and no regard for ball security. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, cd1 said: Seriously? You do know that QBs in today's NFL do not call their own plays, right? So, to say "he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod" is BS. Make no mistake about it, Peterman will "never live it down" because nobody fans will make sure of it. Mark my words, it won't be long before Josh Allen starts to collect his very own band of hangmen just waiting to hang him every chance THEY get. The playcalls could be exactly the same. The knock against Tyrod was the he was afraid to pull the trigger for fear of turning the ball over. Peterman went into that Chargers game with the determination that he would not hesitate to throw, and he paid the price. He's much more discerning now. But because of that half, every time he throws a pick or a near-pick, the announcer will mention his 5-pick game. Other QBs will not have to face that; he always will. Edited August 29, 2018 by Dr. K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What you saw was a lack of pocket mobility, total panic, a complete loss of composure, and no regard for ball security. So....it was a mediocre thing? It was a generational disaster, but it wasn’t all on the QB. DL came in unblocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, Augie said: So....it was a mediocre thing? It was a generational disaster, but it wasn’t all on the QB. DL came in unblocked. Regardless. There was no need to become a baker to produce a multitude of turnovers. Take a sack or throw it away to live for another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Honestly I have very little to go on to formulate an opinion. Looks like a champ in preseason. He absolutely crashed and burned during his debut. Looked better during the Colts game but still didn't finish. Again he is looking absolutely clutch in preseason again. The doubters and naysayers could be right. They could be dead wrong. I'm on the fence. The only problem I have with his doubters is they remove any room for improvement. It's just not logically possible for Nate to be anything but that 5 interception joke. That and they bend over backwards to dismiss Peterman and Prop up Allen. The closest they will come is meh the O-Line sucks start Nate or AJMcarron to get killed. Hey it's progress! Even though they look goofy mentioning AJMcarron. I'm in full support of Peterman starting but I'm still going to be cringing worried that he will crash and burn. It's going to be a very nervous excitement for me. I will be excited if he starts. This is the QB I want to start. Edited August 29, 2018 by Lfod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Regardless. There was no need to become a baker to produce a multitude of turnovers. Take a sack or throw it away to live for another day. I’ve been watching forever, and that was the worst (but possibly most amusing!) half of football I’ve ever seen. He got punched in the mouth almost immediately on every throw, and it got almost humorous. Edited August 29, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda... Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda... Yup, will never live it down, no matter what. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, 1ManRaid said: Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda... Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda... Yup, will never live it down, no matter what. Totally fair comparison to two Hall of Fame QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda... Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda... Yup, will never live it down, no matter what. If he turns into Favre or Manning (unlikely) then they will start with it as an ironic comment on how great he later became. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He tied the record for most picks in a first start in half a game. It's going to be on him forever the only thing he can change is the perception of it. So who did he tie for the most picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Totally fair comparison to two Hall of Fame QBs. So Peyton started his career as a HOF QB? I think you missed the point of them "living down" those INTs by BECOMING HOF QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 44 minutes ago, Dr. K said: . . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead. This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him, even one praising him, will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously. There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. If you take all the letters in all our quarterbacks initials, it spells JANPAM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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