Soda Popinski Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Shaq did a good job of setting the edge today and forcing the RBs inside and was close to knocking down some passes. Doubt he gets cut. There are currently a lot worse player on this team than Shaq. We don't know his assignments on each play so I agree if he was supposed to be setting the edge he did a good job of it from what I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, Perk71 said: O'Neal? From 'Stargate SG-1'? I don't think he spells it that way. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Spent much of the game zeroing in on Shaq Lawson. He is plain awful- cant shed a block, has no spin move, doesnt get underneath/gain leverage, gets pushed to the outside and is slow slow slow. He is not even a serviceable DE imo. I can see him getting cut. It less of a criticism of Shaq and more of an indictment of Rex's antiquated understanding of the modern NFL. With teams now throwing 65 - 70% of the time and making quick hitting throws in 2 seconds or less, there just isn't a huge need for big, strong, slow "edge-setting" defensive linemen. Shaq got over drafted. Lawson would pile up sacks fifteen years ago - if QBs held the ball for 3.5 seconds like they used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I can't recall teams using DE's who can't rush the passer and are strictly run defenders. Besides, McDermott's defense needs to generate pressure from the front 4. Lawson doesn't do that, but copy and paste remains adamant that he won't be cut. He may be in large part because they owe him nothing and didn't pick him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said: It less of a criticism of Shaq and more of an indictment of Rex's antiquated understanding of the modern NFL. With teams now throwing 65 - 70% of the time and making quick hitting throws in 2 seconds or less, there just isn't a huge need for big, strong, slow "edge-setting" defensive linemen. Shaq got over drafted. Lawson would pile up sacks fifteen years ago - if QBs held the ball for 3.5 seconds like they used to. Good assessment and makes alot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Spent much of the game zeroing in on Shaq Lawson. He is plain awful- cant shed a block, has no spin move, doesnt get underneath/gain leverage, gets pushed to the outside and is slow slow slow. He is not even a serviceable DE imo. I can see him getting cut. Based On fan reaction from yesterday lets just cut everyone. Fire everyone. Fold up the stadium and ship it to Toronto or London and hold a public stoning for the stadium vendors and ship anyone left over to Cleveland. Bout cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, BillsVet said: I can't recall teams using DE's who can't rush the passer and are strictly run defenders. Besides, McDermott's defense needs to generate pressure from the front 4. Lawson doesn't do that, but copy and paste remains adamant that he won't be cut. He may be in large part because they owe him nothing and didn't pick him. In the first qtr they pulled him out for an entire series after he stunk it up- then went back in and stunk it up some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: In the first qtr they pulled him out for an entire series after he stunk it up- then went back in and stunk it up some more. They rotated the DL with other backups in at both DE and DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, No Place To Hyde said: Based On fan reaction from yesterday lets just cut everyone. Fire everyone. Fold up the stadium and ship it to Toronto or London and hold a public stoning for the stadium vendors and ship anyone left over to Cleveland. Bout cover it? Please dont lump me in with everyone else. I understand it is pre season I also understand what I have seen out of this guy the past few seasons. Shaq sucks and doesnt belong on an NFL roster. 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They rotated the DL with other backups in at both DE and DT. That wasnt a rotation at that point, he was off for the entire drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Please dont lump me in with everyone else. I understand it is pre season I also understand what I have seen out of this guy the past few seasons. Shaq sucks and doesnt belong on an NFL roster. That wasnt a rotation at that point, he was off for the entire drive. Who else was playing on the DL during this entire series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I thought the pre-season didn't matter and should be totally ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Stools Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: He’s too damn slow and “Shaq don’t make the free throws!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 15 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Spent much of the game zeroing in on Shaq Lawson. He is plain awful- cant shed a block, has no spin move, doesnt get underneath/gain leverage, gets pushed to the outside and is slow slow slow. He is not even a serviceable DE imo. I can see him getting cut. SHHHHHHH! (we’re trying to sucker Oakland into trading Mack for him..) I SAW A LIKELY PERENNIAL PROBOWLER IN SHAQ’s PERFORMANCE TODAY! So Glad We Have Him!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 15 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Were you at the game? If you were you may of come up with a different conclusion. Im not into bangin on players but he is plain awful. The only way he makes this team is because the whole line is putrid. Yep, saw that also! What’s your deal with being at the game? I get a much better grasp of what actually happened during the game while watching it on tv/dvr than I do when I’m there. Doesn’t matter what seat I sit in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88what Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: He is a CFL player Cameron wake was a cfl player, Shaq should of retired from football during college ? Edited August 27, 2018 by 88what 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 They need to move him inside where he seems to be a better pass rusher....... Lorenzo needs to be moved to DE so that he is not a liability in pass coverage and he can actually generate a pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 He isn't getting cut. But in my opinion he definitely is underwhelming so far in his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Are jokes mistaking Lawson's name for Shaq O'Neal still considered funny here? Like, do people think "I have a good one no one has heard yet"? Edited August 27, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 His goal is to make the probowl/super bowl this year, so not sure how much else you want from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, NewEra said: What’s your deal with being at the game? I get a much better grasp of what actually happened during the game while watching it on tv/dvr than I do when I’m there. Doesn’t matter what seat I sit in. Theres no deal- cameras move away from certain areas and you cant see what is goi g on. 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Who else was playing on the DL during this entire series? Hughes and Phillips were in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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