26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Buffalo Bills Position Battles: Ryan Groy vs. Russell Bodine Film The Buffalo Bills are entering their third preseason game, which means the starters will play a majority of the contest. But the center position has yet to be settled. Ryan Groy and Russell Bodine have been rotating in and out with the starters throughout training camp, and it is likely that the coaching staff is going to make a decision soon. With the decision on the horizon, let’s put the two side by side and break their skillsets down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Good article. I'm in the Groy camp too. Everything here just re-affirms it. I think the Bills are smart enough to see it. I'd love to see a Teller vs Ducasse breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 One of the key things that I take from this article is that Groy is more stout in pass protection so the pocket is less likely to collapse than when Bodine is in there. Being able to step up into the pocket is a big deal, especially with a young QB. Again it's mentioned that one of the potential "issues" with Groy starting is his ability to be the swing backup, saving a roster spot on Sunday. Do we have anyone else that can play multiple positions? Can Bodine play guard? Can Teller, Vlad or Miller play center? Even if only to finish out a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Bodine is dead to me ever since he stopped blocking to readjust his gloves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I dont get the swing thing means he cant start, if a guard gets hurt, move groy and bring bodine in, if groy gets hurt bring bodine in. Not sure why that means he cant start at C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Allen-Groy combo should be one of the primary areas to focus on during this game, and their performances will determine who starts at Baltimore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, TPS said: Allen-Groy combo should be one of the primary areas to focus on during this game, and their performances will determine who starts at Baltimore. The Bengals front will pose a good test for Groy to gauge where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Bengals front will pose a good test for Groy to gauge where he is. Yep, if he can hold up against Atkins, he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Maybe Someday said: One of the key things that I take from this article is that Groy is more stout in pass protection so the pocket is less likely to collapse than when Bodine is in there. Being able to step up into the pocket is a big deal, especially with a young QB. Again it's mentioned that one of the potential "issues" with Groy starting is his ability to be the swing backup, saving a roster spot on Sunday. Do we have anyone else that can play multiple positions? Can Bodine play guard? Can Teller, Vlad or Miller play center? Even if only to finish out a game. I think what they'll do if they choose Groy to start at center is still dress Bodine for games and if either Miller or Ducasse have to go out, they'd shift Groy over to guard and bring in Bodine at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: Good article. I'm in the Groy camp too. Everything here just re-affirms it. I think the Bills are smart enough to see it. I'd love to see a Teller vs Ducasse breakdown. This is silly. Groy should be starting from Day 1 of camp. Please cut Redmond, I can't watch his floating snaps anymore. Bodine will be a good depth guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: This is silly. Groy should be starting from Day 1 of camp. Please cut Redmond, I can't watch his floating snaps anymore. Bodine will be a good depth guy. McDermott doesn't operate like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 #teamGroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Maybe Someday said: One of the key things that I take from this article is that Groy is more stout in pass protection so the pocket is less likely to collapse than when Bodine is in there. Being able to step up into the pocket is a big deal, especially with a young QB. Again it's mentioned that one of the potential "issues" with Groy starting is his ability to be the swing backup, saving a roster spot on Sunday. Do we have anyone else that can play multiple positions? Can Bodine play guard? Can Teller, Vlad or Miller play center? Even if only to finish out a game. I think it would be better for the long snapper to play center than Vlad, if it came down to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Groy is snapping to Allen on Sunday; pretty sure he will win the job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: I dont get the swing thing means he cant start, if a guard gets hurt, move groy and bring bodine in, if groy gets hurt bring bodine in. Not sure why that means he cant start at C You really want to avoid changing centers during a game unless the center is injured. What you suggest is workable, but undesireable. I think the Bills hoped Bodine would be the guy and that he looked poor last couple years because of other changes on the Cincy OL, but right now Groy is looking like he has the edge and should properly win the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You really want to avoid changing centers during a game unless the center is injured. What you suggest is workable, but undesireable. I think the Bills hoped Bodine would be the guy and that he looked poor last couple years because of other changes on the Cincy OL, but right now Groy is looking like he has the edge and should properly win the job. I can kinda understand the desire not to change in the middle of a game, but we are talking about a one game fix (and likely partial game fix) where we could go out and sign a replacement if the guard that got hurt is out extended period of time for the following games. To me, that risk is less than risking not playing your best center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayg Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/20/17141958/russell-bodine-turned-down-long-term-contract-offer-bengals Edited August 24, 2018 by jayg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I guess one of my criticisms of this regime is how they have handled the OL. I don't understand why this C position is a battle, Groy earned a chance to start when Wood went down a couple of years ago and Groy filled in admirably. Bodine isn't that good of C. I don't understand the fight, but what do I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, njbuff said: I guess one of my criticisms of this regime is how they have handled the OL. They are certainly, to date, showing a "low interest rate", lower than a top-notch team needs. 16 minutes ago, njbuff said: I don't understand why this C position is a battle, Groy earned a chance to start when Wood went down a couple of years ago and Groy filled in admirably. Bodine isn't that good of C. I don't understand the fight, but what do I know. The Bills took the opportunity to bring Bodine in to compete at a reasonable price. The Bengals had a very good OL Bodine's 1st 2 years in the league. They fell off in 2016 and last year. The Bills took a chance that the fall-off had less to do with Bodine and more to do with the change from Hue Jackson to Zampese at OC and possibly churn on the rest of the OL (lost an all-pro LT and a good RG to FA). Bodine didn't look so good the last 2 years, but neither did Dalton and the rest of Cincy's O - from 7th to 24th/26th. It was a reasonable gamble, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, njbuff said: I guess one of my criticisms of this regime is how they have handled the OL. I don't understand why this C position is a battle, Groy earned a chance to start when Wood went down a couple of years ago and Groy filled in admirably. Bodine isn't that good of C. I don't understand the fight, but what do I know. Haven’t you heard? Juan Castillo is our OL coach. That explains everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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