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6 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I’m guessing Peterman. He likes to throw INTs

 

Stop that! He doesn’t like it....it’s just, you know....what he does. It’s like dairy and gas, it can just happen for some people. 

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If there is something about NP that scares an NFL DC, anything at all that NP does better than JA, I’ll need someone to explain it to me.

 

So then, there’s the argument that JA is likely to be rattled & exposed due to lack of experience.  But I’d say NP has something to prove in this area as well.  No advantage.

 

You’re left with this idea that JA could get hurt behind this weak O line and that would stunt his development.  That argument doesn’t hold water, especially as the talent discrepancy becomes more obvious.  That’s a risk that is always going to be there and part of the game.

 

Gotta play the kid.  Better arm, better feet and better vision/poise.

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Definitely Peterman. He relies on quick drops and hot reads. He's very much like Fitzpatrick in that sense. His arm strength is mediocre. If his read is wrong it's a pick. He really struggles off his spot, something that Allen seems unfazed by. So as a DB, it almost becomes like a snap count type of thing. You know the ball is coming out quick, you know it's going to be a short to intermediate throw. If you anticipate the route, it's at least a defended pass, if not an interception. I've seen a few times now, Peterman trusting his arm on those tight window throws. That's a very bad thing. He is physically incapable of making those types of throws.

 

With Allen, as a DB, he's scary. He shakes off the rush. He moves in the pocket, extends plays. And he has the arm to literally put the ball anywhere he wants. Both of his touchdowns were throws that you will never, ever see a guy like Peterman make. That's just the bottom line. He's also a much better runner than Peterman, so once he gets those DBs respecting his ability as a passer, he will have tons of running lanes as well and has the speed and physicality to take advantage of them.

 

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49 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said:

If there is something about NP that scares an NFL DC, anything at all that NP does better than JA, I’ll need someone to explain it to me.

 

So then, there’s the argument that JA is likely to be rattled & exposed due to lack of experience.  But I’d say NP has something to prove in this area as well.  No advantage.

 

You’re left with this idea that JA could get hurt behind this weak O line and that would stunt his development.  That argument doesn’t hold water, especially as the talent discrepancy becomes more obvious.  That’s a risk that is always going to be there and part of the game.

 

Gotta play the kid.  Better arm, better feet and better vision/poise.

 

Complete passes.

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1 hour ago, Luka said:

 

 

With Allen, as a DB, he's scary. He shakes off the rush. He moves in the pocket, extends plays. And he has the arm to literally put the ball anywhere he wants. Both of his touchdowns were throws that you will never, ever see a guy like Peterman make. That's just the bottom line. He's also a much better runner than Peterman, so once he gets those DBs respecting his ability as a passer, he will have tons of running lanes as well and has the speed and physicality to take advantage of them.

 

Kid is going to light it up.  Start him, please.

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2 hours ago, Cugalabanza said:

If there is something about NP that scares an NFL DC, anything at all that NP does better than JA, I’ll need someone to explain it to me.

 

So then, there’s the argument that JA is likely to be rattled & exposed due to lack of experience.  But I’d say NP has something to prove in this area as well.  No advantage.

 

You’re left with this idea that JA could get hurt behind this weak O line and that would stunt his development.  That argument doesn’t hold water, especially as the talent discrepancy becomes more obvious.  That’s a risk that is always going to be there and part of the game.

 

Gotta play the kid.  Better arm, better feet and better vision/poise.

I just realized that Josh Allen's initials, JA, just happen to be the last letters in the word 'Ninja'.  Coincidence?  I think NOT!

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1 minute ago, Peace Frog said:

I just realized that Josh Allen's initials, JA, just happen to be the last letters in the word 'Ninja'.  Coincidence?  I think NOT!

Wow! Insane. Got me thinking 

 

If you take NP JA and AJM and rearrange the letters and take some out and add in some other ones, you also get NINJA.

 

WOW

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3 hours ago, Cugalabanza said:

If there is something about NP that scares an NFL DC, anything at all that NP does better than JA, I’ll need someone to explain it to me.

 

So then, there’s the argument that JA is likely to be rattled & exposed due to lack of experience.  But I’d say NP has something to prove in this area as well.  No advantage.

 

You’re left with this idea that JA could get hurt behind this weak O line and that would stunt his development.  That argument doesn’t hold water, especially as the talent discrepancy becomes more obvious.  That’s a risk that is always going to be there and part of the game.

 

Gotta play the kid.  Better arm, better feet and better vision/poise.

I have to agree here.  It is not that we have a Veteran QB competing with Allen.  Peterman was a rookie last year.   If the talent level is way greater than Allen has to start.  One thing we were wondering prior to the pre-season games was the progress of Allen.  Can he read NFL defense, is he able to adjust live and improvise, does he know to take what the defense may be giving etc...The Preseason games have shown that he has grown in those phases. He does not appear to be rattled by the defense even after taking the couple of sacks.  He has delivered in the pocket in spite of taking hits.  He has taken his opportunities and run away with it.  

 

I honestly think at this time Allen may be more ready than even Darnold. 

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Honestly, the only arguments against starting Allen are the stunt growth & scary horrid O-line arguments.

 

Both are valid, but at some point why not just make the experience about growth and how to survive & win behind swiss cheese?

 

I mean, the kid knows.

 

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