Just Joshin' Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Please be specific: who would you target, how much draft capital do you use and why would that team want to trade? It is nice to rant but what is the solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Who is forgetting the O line? There are four threads about the O line in progress right now, including this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Every team at this time of year has 1 or 2 guys that the team loves, but simply do not fit. The numbers push them out, and the teams are really upset to lose such players. Does anyone know if there are any OL floating around the league who fit this mold? I am hoping we could pick up someone's cut. Our line seems bad enough that such a player might actually start for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I really think they might be hungry.........really hungry. With McD`s focus on fitness they may be eating salads for lunch instead of second helpings of potatoes and steak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Injuries can happen at any point regardless of who is blocking for you. Start the guy that gives us the best chance to win and that’s it. Should we not play shady either? Can’t risk him getting injured either behind this line. I sure Shady has complete confidence in the OL! If drastic changes aren't made soon,he's next to join AJ in triage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: Ben Roethlisberger hasn't had an o-line for 14 years. No comparison Big Ben walked onto a 15-1 team his rookie year. He had a strong running game and championship level defense. Ben's main responsibility was to hand off the ball and not screw things up. Josh Allen would be asked to carry a team that is implementing a new offense with a new coordinator. Definitely not the ideal situation for a rookie to walk into. Allen has not shown himself to be heads and shoulder over the other 2 QBs. I don't want him on the field until the coaching staff feels they are 100% sure he is ready to take over and is the best QB on the roster. I want to give Allen every opportunity to be successful. Once named the starter I don't want any setbacks or struggles to result him being yanked in and out of the starting lineup. Because once he hits a rough patch which is to be expected the calls to start Peterman will be loud and should be ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They drafted Allen and Edmunds as key players in the 1st round. So what players would you have drafted and signed in UFA. I want names dammit! I wouldn't have traded up for Edmunds and drafted OG Isaiah Wynn, OT Brian O'Neill and signed OG Andrew Norwell . Should have done more to upgrade the whole offense and work on defense next year when there is supposed to be a ton of defensive talent. 25 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I think this o-line, once they get the personnel straight, will be vastly better than they showed last night. I hope so but they are just polishing a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) With two new starters, another playing a different position, a 2nd year LT, and the center position being a competition still, it will probably take this O-line a little time to gel. If there is any place on the team that needs continuity, it is the O-line. They need to settle on their 5 and get them comfortable with each other. It is foolish to believe that this line with all of the upheaval would come out of the gate and look like world beaters. They played well in week one and not so well last night. Doesn't mean they will be terrible all year. They are going to need a little time to come into their own. Am I a little concerned with the O-line, sure. But I wouldn't take last night as a forecast for how they will play all year. A vanilla offense against a defense that was bringing the house because they wanted to have a good showing for their fans in their first game at home (and for the Hard Knocks cameras). Just as with QB, we should expect a little bit of growing pains with this line. But, hopefully they will get better with each game, the more they play together. Edited August 18, 2018 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I've seen a lot of threads on here with people concerned about the O-Line. I would start in the middle and work my way out, even Tom Brady would suck playing behind this group. O-Line needs to be priority in FA and the draft next year. Castillo being fired will be the first step in rebuilding the O-Line. I think he is one of the worst OL coaches in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They drafted Allen and Edmunds as key players in the 1st round. So what players would you have drafted and signed in UFA. I want names dammit! The Bills did not sign any of the top FA OL this year even though everyone knew that OL was a big issue. They gambled and I hope they can piece something together to keep Josh Allen healthy. Bodine, Newhouse and a low draft pick was next to nothing. Andrew Norwell G 26 CAR JAC 5 $66,500,000 $13,300,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 $5,000,000 SolderNate Solder LT 30 NE NYG 4 $62,000,000 $15,500,000 $34,800,000 $34,800,000 $10,000,000 RichburgWeston Richburg C 27 NYG SF 5 $47,500,000 $9,500,000 $28,500,000 $16,500,000 $9,560,000 PughJustin Pugh G 28 NYG ARI 5 $44,775,000 $8,955,000 $15,750,000 $13,000,000 $3,500,000 JensenRyan Jensen C 27 BAL TB 4 $42,000,000 $10,500,000 $22,000,000 $22,000,000 $12,000,000 HubbardChris Hubbard RT 27 PIT CLE 5 $36,500,000 $7,300,000 $15,150,000 $9,000,000 $5,800,000 FultonZach Fulton G 26 KC HOU 4 $28,000,000 $7,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,000,000 LongSpencer Long C 27 WAS NYJ 4 $27,400,000 $6,850,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,500,000 KlineJosh Kline G 28 TEN TEN 4 $26,500,000 $6,625,000 $12,000,000 $9,250,000 $5,750,000 PounceyMike Pouncey C 29 MIA LAC 2 $15,000,000 $7,500,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,250,000 OmamehPatrick Omameh G 28 JAC NYG 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000 $10,050,000 $10,050,000 $2,400,000 SittonJosh Sitton G 32 CHI MIA 2 $13,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,450,000 $8,450,000 $6,500,000 FuscoBrandon Fusco G 30 SF ATL 3 $12,750,000 $4,250,000 $5,500,000 $4,500,000 $3,000,000 KelemeteSenio Kelemete G 28 NO HOU 3 $12,000,000 $4,000,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $4,000,000 SullivanJohn Sullivan C 33 LA LA 2 $10,750,000 $5,375,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000 $6,374,999 SmithAndre Smith G 31 CIN ARI 2 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $2,676,250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Sadly, I agree. Between the lack of talent, Shady being unable to find any room to run and the receivers not getting open and forcing the QB to hold the ball, whoever plays QB for us is going to take a beating. I wouldn't be at all surprised if AJ isn't the only Bills QB to go down with injuries this year. We simply must make every conceivable effort to bolster this OL for next year and keep Josh's butt on the sideline. I'll be really sore if his career gets cut short or otherwise sidetracked by the incompetence of this OL. I've been saying this all along, but so many people just won't accept it until the regular season starts and the train wreck gets everyone's attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yeezus said: piss off with that that mentality Thats how you destroy a rookies development. God some Bills fans are absolutely delusional. Go support another team if all you care about is winning right now. We are rebuilding. I'm sorry that I've seen enough of crappy to mediocre QBs over the last 15 or so years and would like to see the future now rather than later. There have been plenty of QBs that have started right out of the gate and had great careers and sure some not so much but sure maybe Ryan Leaf would have been a hall of famer if he would have just sat a year or two, I mean hey you never know (sarcasm of course). A bad oline isn't gonna halt his development, all that is gonna halt his development is his grasp of the game. That's what makes or breaks QBs. I'm not delusional. It's better to get him out there and give him a taste of the game now than later. You're delusional if you think we're rebuilding after a playoff season lol Edited August 18, 2018 by Buffalo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This looks like the group we have for this season unless a team that drafted offensive linemen happens to release a vet due to financial reasons in cuts......we have to make sure we have the best of the OL we CURRENTLY have are on the field...... Dawkins is fine.....one pre season game with no help against a monster like Garrett does not change that Decauuse......I would love to see Teller get a chance to supplant him Groy should already be the starter Miller is under rated....and the scheme fits him Mills is a player we are gonna have to live with this season I was a big John Miller fan but there is no doubt that since Kromer left town he has struggled. He wasn't good last night. He wasn't Bodine bad or Ducasse bad but the only lineman I'd have even given a C to was Mills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 A few things that bother me are 1)Richie Incognito was virtually unnoticed yesterday 2) If Kyle has a long term injury out of this who is going to protect Tyrods blindside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Let them play in their imaginary world. It’s the same world where we are also trading for Khalil Mack. It's also the world where Josh Allen is clearly a proven high quality franchise QB b/c he made some nice throws, at times, in a pre-season game against the second and third units of a team that didn't win in 2017. Edited August 18, 2018 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 GB -I disagree and so do a lot of analysts that Miller had a good game last night. Ducasse, Bodine, and Dawkins ok, but to Dawkins credit he was facing one of the best pass rushers in the league. They should have given him TE help when they saw Dawkins struggling. Groy will be fine at Center and I believe Dawkins will get back to how he played last year. Ducasse is the problem, and cut Bodine. He was so inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The main reason you start Allen, outside of the fact he is clearly better than the other two, is to open the field for Shady. Teams just have to protect against the howitzer. They can't stack the box and take Shady out of the game. The run game is dependent on Allen being in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billspro said: The second team oline looked really good. I think there is a combo that would provide us with an average oline . Agree 100% The second O-line has looked pretty good. A mix of Groy, Teller and maybe Ike B could lift the unit. I'm firmly in Groy's camp now. Teller looks like a football player and all Ike does looks good. He is often in on Murphy's biggest runs. If I could build an Oline for Buffalo it would look like: Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - Ike B or Mills. Edited August 18, 2018 by RocCityRoller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, Warcodered said: People just seem so terrified that Allen playing with this line will get him hurt and psychologically scar him preventing him from becoming a great quarterback. But his record indicates the exact opposite. In the very first game Allen started at Wyoming he broke his collar bone in multiple places and was done for the season. This is after no one recruited him and he had to fight to get one college to give him a shot. Then the season he comes back he does so well that a quarter back from Wyoming gets mentioned as a potential number 1 pick. So what you're saying is, we really need to protect this Kid,especially in light of his previous injury. I agree! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The Bills did not sign any of the top FA OL this year even though everyone knew that OL was a big issue. They gambled and I hope they can piece something together to keep Josh Allen healthy. Bodine, Newhouse and a low draft pick was next to nothing. Andrew Norwell G 26 CAR JAC 5 $66,500,000 $13,300,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 $5,000,000 SolderNate Solder LT 30 NE NYG 4 $62,000,000 $15,500,000 $34,800,000 $34,800,000 $10,000,000 RichburgWeston Richburg C 27 NYG SF 5 $47,500,000 $9,500,000 $28,500,000 $16,500,000 $9,560,000 PughJustin Pugh G 28 NYG ARI 5 $44,775,000 $8,955,000 $15,750,000 $13,000,000 $3,500,000 JensenRyan Jensen C 27 BAL TB 4 $42,000,000 $10,500,000 $22,000,000 $22,000,000 $12,000,000 HubbardChris Hubbard RT 27 PIT CLE 5 $36,500,000 $7,300,000 $15,150,000 $9,000,000 $5,800,000 FultonZach Fulton G 26 KC HOU 4 $28,000,000 $7,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,000,000 LongSpencer Long C 27 WAS NYJ 4 $27,400,000 $6,850,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,500,000 KlineJosh Kline G 28 TEN TEN 4 $26,500,000 $6,625,000 $12,000,000 $9,250,000 $5,750,000 PounceyMike Pouncey C 29 MIA LAC 2 $15,000,000 $7,500,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $6,250,000 OmamehPatrick Omameh G 28 JAC NYG 3 $15,000,000 $5,000,000 $10,050,000 $10,050,000 $2,400,000 SittonJosh Sitton G 32 CHI MIA 2 $13,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,450,000 $8,450,000 $6,500,000 FuscoBrandon Fusco G 30 SF ATL 3 $12,750,000 $4,250,000 $5,500,000 $4,500,000 $3,000,000 KelemeteSenio Kelemete G 28 NO HOU 3 $12,000,000 $4,000,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $4,000,000 SullivanJohn Sullivan C 33 LA LA 2 $10,750,000 $5,375,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000 $6,374,999 SmithAndre Smith G 31 CIN ARI 2 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $2,676,250 Facts are simple and facts are straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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