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Josh Allen is a prospect. He's showing that he can be a starting NFL QB. Its promising and makes me feel good about Beane/McDermott's regime.

 

Quietly however, Nathan Peterman has been having a couple of solid games in the preseason. He's got a clear rapport with Benjamin, who may be a saving grace on an offense that is usually predictably overly reliant on Lesean McCoy's ability to make plays as a runner and as a passer. He might not have a cannon, but there is more to winning football games than just deep WR routes. 

 

The same people that want Allen in NOW and dont even consider Peterman are the same people who will you Peterman threw 5 int's vs The chargers last year. In their minds, Peterman is not even in the discussion because he's already a "bust". There is more than one person on the football team however. 5 int's sounds bad, but many of them were errant timings with receivers and an o-line that was getting steamrolled on the line of scrimmage.

 

Allen could very well be the franchise guy. The issue is who is the better Quarterback in two weeks.

 

Peterman could easily be him. 

 

 

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Honest question:

 

If Peterman starts against the Ravens and throws 3+ INT in the first half, does McD then have to send Allen out for the 2nd half, basically anointing him "starter" going forward?

 

Would the coaching staff then look even dumber than when they benched Tyrod?

 

I know it's a hypothetical, but I don't think it's a crazy scenario to ponder.

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The case for Peterman is watching that 1st team offensive line get completely manhandled. There's more QB injuries coming, that's for sure.

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The Browns & Panthers have bad ass front 7’s. Expect our OL to settle in going forward.

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11 minutes ago, QCity said:

The case for Peterman is watching that 1st team offensive line get completely manhandled. There's more QB injuries coming, that's for sure.

 

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8 hours ago, DollaBills said:

 

 

Josh Allen is a prospect. He's showing that he can be a starting NFL QB. Its promising and makes me feel good about Beane/McDermott's regime.

 

Quietly however, Nathan Peterman has been having a couple of solid games in the preseason. He's got a clear rapport with Benjamin, who may be a saving grace on an offense that is usually predictably overly reliant on Lesean McCoy's ability to make plays as a runner and as a passer. He might not have a cannon, but there is more to winning football games than just deep WR routes. 

 

The same people that want Allen in NOW and dont even consider Peterman are the same people who will you Peterman threw 5 int's vs The chargers last year. In their minds, Peterman is not even in the discussion because he's already a "bust". There is more than one person on the football team however. 5 int's sounds bad, but many of them were errant timings with receivers and an o-line that was getting steamrolled on the line of scrimmage.

 

Allen could very well be the franchise guy. The issue is who is the better Quarterback in two weeks.

 

Peterman could easily be him. 

 

 

 

In 52 career pass attempts he has 6 INTs and 3 Fumbles.  He only completed 50% of his passes last preseason, and less than 50% in reg and post season.  

 

His 2nd drive of the preseason this year he threw a pick again.  His first pass of the 2nd game tonight was a dropped pick six.

 

The TD pass tonight to O’Leary was slow and behind him so bad that despite being wide open by 10+ yards with a clear path the endzone, Nick had to slow down and wait for the ball that led to the defender getting to him requiring Nick to break a tackle to score on what should have been a walk in TD on broken coverage.

 

So no, it’s not just people saying one game, it’s his body of work past and present.  Every time he throws an out pattern it’s a risk to get picked.  He played one drive with KB and now all of a sudden he has a “connection”?  Talk about over exaggerating one drive in the first preseason game.  

 

I dont know what NP has done to warrant this mythological elevation of him, but it’s like he has hypnotized people.  And people are not enamored with Allen because he can throw it deep, it’s his ability to get passes into places others can’t, his ability to move and avoid the pressure in the pocket, how poised he is, etc.  NP has performed terribly under pressure so far, and one or two drives don’t change the body of work.

 

Most importantly, NP just doesn’t have the ability to make all the throws while Allen can not only make all the throws, but he can also make some that most other people can’t make.

 

Sorry I just have yet see NP play a game where I go this guy can be a consistent starter in this league.  I hope he proves me wrong, but right now I can’t make a case for him over Allen.

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I don't trust him in  a real game.

 

Looked like he was kind of hobbling around late in the game. After taking a knee he got up kind of funny. I hope that knee is ok.

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Peterman can't throw a 60 yard bomb, but Allen can't complete 85% of his passes either. I'll take the guy that keeps us on the field until Allen is clearly better. They shouldn't give him the job until he consistently outperforms the guy in front of him. Once that happens, I'm team Allen. 

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If McCarron is out for a while I don't see how you play Peterman over Allen.....it's not like he has a ton of experience over Allen and definitely not as talented

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2 hours ago, DollaBills said:

 

 

Josh Allen is a prospect. He's showing that he can be a starting NFL QB. Its promising and makes me feel good about Beane/McDermott's regime.

 

Quietly however, Nathan Peterman has been having a couple of solid games in the preseason. He's got a clear rapport with Benjamin, who may be a saving grace on an offense that is usually predictably overly reliant on Lesean McCoy's ability to make plays as a runner and as a passer. He might not have a cannon, but there is more to winning football games than just deep WR routes. 

 

The same people that want Allen in NOW and dont even consider Peterman are the same people who will you Peterman threw 5 int's vs The chargers last year. In their minds, Peterman is not even in the discussion because he's already a "bust". There is more than one person on the football team however. 5 int's sounds bad, but many of them were errant timings with receivers and an o-line that was getting steamrolled on the line of scrimmage.

 

Allen could very well be the franchise guy. The issue is who is the better Quarterback in two weeks.

 

Peterman could easily be him. 

 

 

 

He blows.

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4 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

He blows.

 

Wow!  What an intelligent and well-spoken rebuttal!  There always has to be at least one DA who thinks he's so funny and just has to post some BS one-word response like this so everyone else can see just how cool he is.  Congratulations on being that idiot.

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The reason why Peterman should be the backup is he has the tools of a backup

QB.  That 7 yard out that he constantly floats for the defenders to jumpmin front of is a great example of why he is not a starter in this league.  

 

Compare that to how Allen makes that throw. 

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2 hours ago, DollaBills said:

He might not have a cannon, but there is more to winning football games than just deep WR routes.

 

Maybe I'm missing something, and I know it's very early with just two preseason games down and Allen going against 2nd and 3rd string defenses, but I think he's shown pretty clearly that there is much more to his game that just the deep routes he's famous for.  Even last night he was very good at the short and intermediate routes all across the field.  I've been pleasantly surprised by this development myself. 

 

I do see the point of the OP, however.  The media and so many others are ridiculously fixated on that debacle of a first half against the Chargers.  At least 2 of those 5 picks were because the receiver couldn't catch the damn ball thrown right at his hands.  Take away those 2 and it's not the same situation.  And the pick in the Carolina game last week was a bad deflection as well. 

 

I am, like others, very concerned about Peterman's lack of arm strength though.  It's becoming more obvious each week.  He seems very smart football-wise, but lack of arm strength is a pretty big deal at this level. 

 

2 hours ago, ericcomposer72 said:

Honest question:

 

If Peterman starts against the Ravens and throws 3+ INT in the first half, does McD then have to send Allen out for the 2nd half, basically anointing him "starter" going forward?

 

Would the coaching staff then look even dumber than when they benched Tyrod?

 

I know it's a hypothetical, but I don't think it's a crazy scenario to ponder.

 

This might actually be the real concern we should all have.  Unless they swing a trade for, say, Bridgewater, we're going into this season with Peterman and Allen as 1 and 2 and this scenario, or Peterman getting injured, is not that unlikely I think (or maybe I'm paranoid). 

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16 minutes ago, Mr Beavers said:

 

Wow!  What an intelligent and well-spoken rebuttal!  There always has to be at least one DA who thinks he's so funny and just has to post some BS one-word response like this so everyone else can see just how cool he is.  Congratulations on being that idiot.

 

...says a guy named “Mr. Beavers.”

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12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

...says a guy named “Mr. Beavers.”

 

Yeah, it's a joke ok, referring to a certain feature on the ladies.  Figure it out. 

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16 minutes ago, Mr Beavers said:

 

Yeah, it's a joke ok, referring to a certain feature on the ladies.  Figure it out. 

that's a little childish though, isn't it? 

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Just now, nucci said:

that's a little childish though, isn't it? 

It's a JOKE, bro.  It's silly.  And some guys out there will get it and laugh a little. And I'm a little childish myself, I'll admit it.  Big deal.  You only live once.  Might as well enjoy the **** out of it.

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I like Peterman.

He’s a Team guy who you want in your locker room.

If you believe we have a legit shot to do something of meaning this year( deep run on the playoffs) you approach the season trying to get each win above all else.

If you believe you are a team that has a lot of holes or lacks depth at too many positions then you can get yourself into the mindset of starting your rookie QB.

Peterman is a backup. If we were able to draft our backup last year, and keep him on a cheap rookie deal, bully for us. 

Allen has “ IT”. He is also raw as heck. He also looks like a guy who you can’t “ ruin”. But, if you think Kelly had a rough introductory season in ‘86 you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

JA is going to do some STUPID rookie stuff. Bad picks, bad clock management, take unnecessary sacks and just generally look Rookie-ish. I can handle watching that knowing the dividends it will pay next year when we have the cap room and draft picks to surround him with better talent.

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1 minute ago, Mr Beavers said:

It's a JOKE, bro.  It's silly.  And some guys out there will get it and laugh a little. And I'm a little childish myself, I'll admit it.  Big deal.  You only live once.  Might as well enjoy the **** out of it.

I get it....just not very funny.....we're all a bit childish...we're guys....

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9 minutes ago, nucci said:

I get it....just not very funny.....we're all a bit childish...we're guys....

Not very funny to you.  You don't speak for everyone my friend.  I'm probably a little older than you and guys my generation and older will be more prone to laughing at something like this.  Thanks for your input though.  Yes, we are all a bit childish as guys - the absolute truth.  Sorry for knocking your opinion man.  I'm just defensive about my little joke as you can tell.  No hard feelings.

 

Apologies nucci and everyone.  I don't know why I'm so defensive this morning.  I'll shut up now.

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We always hear, if you don’t start your best QB you are in danger of losing the team. McD needs to start Allen. There is no debate on who the better QB is. 

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Peterman was destined to throw 8+ picks against the Chargers if he didn’t get pulled. It should definitely be McCarron or Allen starting. Peterman can’t throw out patterns hard enough.

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