Foreigner Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 This is just one persons opinion. (Matt Youmans, co-host of VSIN's The Edge-VSIN.com and SiriusXM 204) Bills- This one is obvious. The Bills' expected regression from 9-7 is reflected in the betting market, where their win total has been adjusted to 6. Buffalo finshed with a minus-57 point differential and was a fortunate playoff participant last year. Tyrod Taylor, the quarterback who saved the season, scrambled off to Cleveland. At some point in September or October, the Bills will probably start rookie Josh Allen, who has intriguing arm strength, but is not ready to win many games in the NFL. Browns-From 0-16, there's nowhere to go but up. A inside look at the Browns, via HBO's "Hard Knocks", shows the team's coordinators - Todd Haley and Gregg Williams - are far more competent than head coach Hue Jackson. Cleveland still has plenty of problems, but its win total is six, and Salmons (Westgate SB manager Ed Salmons) has a bold prediction: "Cleveland is going to bounce the other way," Salmons said. "The mistakes that killed this team last year are not going to happen with Tyrod Taylor. He knows how to play the game and he can run. I like Haley. Anything to get Hue Jackson away from the offense is a good thing. The offensive line looks pretty good, and I really like their defense. I think the Browns will end up winning eight or nine games". Don't kill me guys, I'm just the messenger to what I saw today in print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Browns-From 0-16, there's nowhere to go but up. I really hate this expression for the obvious reason. There is somewhere else they can go, nowhere. That being said, I do think they will win a few games but don't think they will get to .500. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 If I could bet $1000 on Brown's under 8 wins I would do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Bills - 19-0 Clowns - 17-1 The loss coming to us in ACC Championship Game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: If I could bet $1000 on Brown's under 8 wins I would do so. They have a really tough schedule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: If I could bet $1000 on Brown's under 8 wins I would do so. You can in Vegas.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, bigK14094 said: You can in Vegas.......... Yeah but with terrible odds. I'm talking -110 arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 The Supremes recently changed the law. Pretty soon most of the states that have lotteries, will have legal wagering, whether online, mobile, apps or whatever way they came dream up to separate you from your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) I stopped reading at "...Tyrod, the quarterback that saved the season." Now if I can only stop laughing. ? The Bills looked terrible on paper last season, too. Coaching and defense saved the season. Spirit of the thread...Bills 7-9 wins, Browns 4-6. Edited August 17, 2018 by The Red King 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Bills - 19-0 Clowns - 17-1 The loss coming to us in ACC Championship Game Damn....we’re not even playing in the best conference in college football. I guess this is what a 17 year draught will do to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I’m very meh about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Timely takeaways saved the season last year. Takeaway totals - unfortunately - aren't very consistent from season to season. They're a combination of skill & luck and not dependent on skill alone. That said, this year's defense will probably be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Bills 28 Browns 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, The Red King said: I stopped reading at "...Tyrod, the quarterback that saved the season." Now if I can only stop laughing. ? The Bills looked terrible on paper last season, too. Coaching and defense saved the season. Spirit of the thread...Bills 7-9 wins, Browns 4-6. if that helps you sleep. still amazes me how this fan base treated TT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, The Red King said: I stopped reading at "...Tyrod, the quarterback that saved the season." Now if I can only stop laughing. ? The Bills looked terrible on paper last season, too. Coaching and defense saved the season. Spirit of the thread...Bills 7-9 wins, Browns 4-6. So were we making the playoffs with Peterman or Webb? Fact is Tyrod came back in after 'the half' and led us to a road win against KC and the only team we lost to the rest of the year was the Pats*. The other duo did get us a blizzard win against Jacoby Brissett and his 69 yards passing though, so there's that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, 87168 said: if that helps you sleep. still amazes me how this fan base treated TT. They treated him like the 31st ranked passer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, 87168 said: if that helps you sleep. still amazes me how this fan base treated TT. Exhibit "A", the NO game. Exhibit "B", the CAR game. And the best evidence of all, exhibit "C", the JAX game...a game we still had a chance to win because our D held them to 10 points. Yes, Tyrod was part of the reason, but he was in no way, shape or form "the quarterback that saved the season". Not even close. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I am pegging the Browns to be between 4-6 wins, I am also pegging the Bills to be between 5-7 wins. The Bills regression is more so due to the massive dead cap they have had to eat and the trade ups for Allen and Edumonds eating away a lot of draft capital leaving other areas of the roster compromised. That's not to say that the moves made weren't the right ones long term, but rather just that playing for the long term was the better move than trying to win in 2018 at all costs. As for the Browns they added a lot of talent to both sides of the ball and they finally settled down their QB situation both in the short term with Tyrod and longer term with Baker. But they still seem like they are a mess off the field. The coaching isn't where it needs to be and the organization isn't where it needs to be overall. I think that if the Browns could find a good coach they could be in a good place longer term as they have a ton of cap space and a foundation of good young talent plus all of their future draft picks. But the trust in the Browns ability to improve as an organization remains questionable at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Popular take. Also, Fake News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I bet $100 on the Bills OVER 6 wins. Still not buying the assured regression narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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