wppete Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It was a good trade, we gave up nothing and hoping this guy turns it around. Let’s see, all up to him now. I like walhat Bean is doing taking cracks on guys and giving up very little in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I hope you're right. He has the athletic gifts but from comments I've read doesn't apply himself to learning routes, etc. The Browns drafted him knowing he had very limited knowledge of route running from the Baylor progam. Then they seemed to say, "hey this is the NFL, we don't have to teach that skill here." And they wonder why they've been 1-31? That's on Jackson, IMO, And how he still has a job is a mystery to me. If a player "doesn't apply himself" its up to the coaching staff to make sure he does. Its called accountability. Unfortunately for Browns fans, I don't think anyone in the organization (including Dorsey) knows what that means... Edited August 13, 2018 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Lurker said: The Browns drafted him knowing he had very limited knowledge of route running from the Baylor progam. Then they seemed to say, "hay this is the NFL, we don't have to teach that skill here." And they wonder why they've been 1-31? That's on Jackson, IMO, And how he still has a job is a mystery to me. If a player "doesn't apply himself" its up to the coaching staff to make sure he does. Its called accountability. Unfortunately for Browns fans, I don't think anyone in the organization (including Dorsey) knows what that means... Like I said, I hope McD gets him going. I am just not optimistic it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 He's out of the graveyard in Cleveland and has new life with the Bills. Hope it works out for him - and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Assuming he did have a sense of entitlement, perhaps being dumped by the worst team in the league will serve as a wake-up call. Trading a 7th for him was a low-risk, high-potential reward. Edited August 13, 2018 by WhoTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Umm, yes I have. I think we'll have Benjamin, Jones, Holmes, Streeter, Reilly, and RayRay. 4 hours ago, ALF said: I just hope a fresh start for Coleman works out. Beane is betting $3.5M on him to succeed. It seems to me that he was brought in to be a top 4 receiver. You don't take on 3.5 million in dead money for a guy you plan on cutting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: It seems to me that he was brought in to be a top 4 receiver. You don't take on 3.5 million in dead money for a guy you plan on cutting. I agree he was brought in to be that. I disagree that he will ultimately be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: I agree he was brought in to be that. I disagree that he will ultimately be that. Fair enough but I would like to see him in the remaining camp and preseason games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 5 hours ago, MURPHD6 said: Referring to a player as being entitled is just fancy way of blaming them for poor coaching and stupid personnel decisions. Right-o. Good coaching fixes everything. So, why isn't Dareus still on the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I'm excited to see him play this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 hours ago, eball said: Umm, probably not. Have you seen the Bills' WR room? My thought exactly. He'll stick with the Bills for 2018 simply because we don't have anybody better than him ... although if the Bills scour the waiver wire after final roster cut down, that may not remain true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I can only imagine that the local press in Cleveland had to find some set of reasons for this trade. What have the Bills lost if the guy doesn’t pan out? A seventh rounder - who cares? If the guy does consistently play up to his athleticism and potential then the Bills got a steal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Sometimes being traded and new scenery is all you need. 7th rounder is worth the gamble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 17 hours ago, JP's Voice said: Thanks for posting. I am fine with giving up a 7th in 2020 for a guy who has potential. Hope he can turn it around in Buffalo with a QB who can find him deep. As for coming to Cleveland, which school did you drop off your kids at? JCU or CWSU? Both great schools for their respective fields. Actually went through Cleveland on my way to Tiffin. Daughter a Freshman on the soccer team. Brother-in-Law was prof at Case. Very good school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 18 hours ago, SoTier said: Right-o. Good coaching fixes everything. So, why isn't Dareus still on the Bills? Would you be motivated to play for the Cleveland Browns if you were their #1 pick at reciever after watching them pass on Carson Wentz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, MURPHD6 said: Would you be motivated to play for the Cleveland Browns if you were their #1 pick at reciever after watching them pass on Carson Wentz? Isn't your statement a perfect example of a "sense of entitlement" ....justifying why some idiot throws away a rare career opportunity simply because the specific job situation doesn't meet his standards? Edited August 14, 2018 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Probably about the same fans said about Sammy Watkins.... "Jordan Matthews is better." scott talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Probably about the same fans said about Sammy Watkins.... "Jordan Matthews is better." You'll have to remind me of all the fans who said that. And, by the way, Sammy wasn't traded for a bag of chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, teef said: scott talk! Gillisee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I'll tell you this, if this kid ever decides to turn the page on how hard he trains and how hard he practices and takes the game seriously (along the lines of the work that guys like Andre and Jerry put in for their training) then look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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