drf1835 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Joshua Ballinger Lippincott Rosen vs. Josh Allen I do not care what his stats are, after thinking about it more. Would root for Allen any time over that brainy bird. Snooty snoot family, snotty snoot kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Unfortunately, Rosen is the type of player who won't last long if they keep trotting him out there with no protection. He doesn't have the build or mental makeup to take a ton of hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Unfortunately, Rosen is the type of player who won't last long if they keep trotting him out there with no protection. He doesn't have the build or mental makeup to take a ton of hits. You must have not seen some of the hits he took at UCLA where he continued to play through. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just based on watching their preseason games and not what I thought of them before, I’d go: 1. Baker 2. Allen 3. Darnold 4. Toss-up between Rosen and Lamar 6. Rudolph with a big dropoff after Darnold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Unfortunately, Rosen is the type of player who won't last long if they keep trotting him out there with no protection. He doesn't have the build or mental makeup to take a ton of hits. His “mental makeup”? I’ll bite - what exactly do you mean by this? Edit — if you mean the concussions then that’s fair I suppose. Edited August 12, 2018 by JoPar_v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Rosen made some bad decisions but his footwork is really impressive for a rookie. He's going to be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Juice_32 said: Rosen made some bad decisions but his footwork is really impressive for a rookie. He's going to be a good one. Timing on some of those contested throws may have been better if he wasn’t fielding the snap from his ankles every play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Timing on some of those contested throws may have been better if he wasn’t fielding the snap from his ankles every play. Good point. One bad decision that should have been picked. Looked pretty good other than that with excellent throws mixed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: After watching Rosen’s passing downs, it’s probably prudent to point out that the Cardinals’ offensive line in pass protection was atrocious. For instance, Rosen was blasted in the face up the middle on his first completion. OP decided not to mention this, but since Allen’s misses were excused away by many here as due to poor protection, I think it’s appropriate to mention. The OP never mentioned Allen inaccuaracy was due to poor protection (which Allen had). The post is relevant and as of now, the scoreboard is Allen 1 and Rosen 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: The OP never mentioned Allen inaccuaracy was due to poor protection (which Allen had). The post is relevant and as of now, the scoreboard is Allen 1 and Rosen 0 Ha okay chief. Glad we have someone keeping track on his imaginary scoreboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Rosen reminded more of Trent Edwards than Tom Brady. Good foot work but bad ball placement and may not be able to make all the throws 4 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Ha okay chief. Glad we have someone keeping track on his imaginary scoreboard. Well everyone else is there bucko so might as well make it official, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 We will see when it counts. Now it is all IFS and BUTS. Come 9/6/18 it will be all about who puts up the Ws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: Rosen reminded more of Trent Edwards than Tom Brady. Good foot work but bad ball placement and may not be able to make all the throws Well everyone else is there bucko so might as well make it official, right? Not sure what you were watching from last night as well as his career at UCLA, but both are among his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Are we going to have a thread every week about this for the next 15 years? Each are rookies that have played one pre-season game. Each did some good and not so good things. And in another revelation water is wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Are we going to have a thread every week about this for the next 15 years? Each are rookies that have played one pre-season game. Each did some good and not so good things. And in another revelation water is wet. ...which one gets cut first?....the intrigue............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not sure what you were watching from last night as well as his career at UCLA, but both are among his strengths. He’s ball placement has been a concern all training camp and it showed it again yesterday. Hence the 6 of 13. I was all for Rosen pre draft watched a ton of games but his first game did not impress. Anyone who thinks he did is just trying to justify there agenda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: He’s ball placement has been a concern all training camp and it showed it again yesterday. Hence the 6 of 13. I was all for Rosen pre draft watched a ton of games but his first game did not impress. Anyone who thinks he did is just trying to justify there agenda Only one who sounds like he has an agenda is you. Did you watch Rosen’s performance or did you just see the 6 of 13 statline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, GimmeSomeProcess said: He’s ball placement has been a concern all training camp and it showed it again yesterday. Hence the 6 of 13. I was all for Rosen pre draft watched a ton of games but his first game did not impress. Anyone who thinks he did is just trying to justify there agenda The 6-13 isn't an accurate reflection of ball placement. He had one bad throw in the 13 with one deliberate throwaway at a receiver's feet and a few others that were risky but gave his guys chances to make plays for him. Sounds like you're a Bills' fan who's now on the Allen bandwagon that prevents you from objective analysis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) It’s really hard to get a grasp on all these guys. All had different scenarios going on in thier games. I’d say Darnold had both 2’s and 3’s to work with so he had the most varied scenario. Rosen looked like he was with some 1’s, mostly 2’s. But he also had the most vanilla gameplan so where do you go with that. Allen was thrown into a tire fire. Baker had had the most opportunity to play I would say and I think he looked the best overall. Weirdly, I’d rank thier first game performances in the same order they were drafted. Edited August 12, 2018 by bobblehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: A question I had going into the draft is how Rosen would fair with a weaker supporting cast than he had at UCLA. How many UCLA players got drafted? 7? 8? Josh Allen had nobody at WYO and he did great with nobodies, that's the difference. Wait until Allen has McCoy and Benjamin, they are 1,000x better than anything he's ever had. and Clay, Coleman, Oleary, 1st unit oline. Kid is going to be a stud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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