Peterman is now officially TRADE BAIT

[Tyrod's friend]

10 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Pennington career stats:

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					89	81	44-37-0	1632	2471	66.0	17823	102	4.1	64	2.6	80	7.2	6.9	10.9	200.3	90.1		162	965	6.40	6.08	6.2	7	10	62
8 yrs		NYJ			69	61	32-29-0	1259	1919	65.6	13738	82	4.3	55	2.9	71	7.2	6.7	10.9	199.1	88.9		132	812	6.30	5.90	6.4	6	8	48
3 yrs		MIA			20	20	12-8-0	373	552	67.6	4085	20	3.6	9	1.6	80	7.4	7.4	11.0	204.3	94.5		30	153	6.76	6.75	5.2	1	2	14
2000	24	NYJ		10	1	0		2	5	40.0	67	1	20.0	0	0.0	62	13.4	17.4	33.5	67.0	127.1		1	4	10.50	13.83	16.7			0
2001	25	NYJ		10	2	0		10	20	50.0	92	1	5.0	0	0.0	24	4.6	5.6	9.2	46.0	79.6		1	8	4.00	4.95	4.8			0
2002	26	NYJ	QB	10	15	12	8-4-0	275	399	68.9	3120	22	5.5	6	1.5	47	7.8	8.2	11.3	208.0	104.2		22	135	7.09	7.49	5.2	1	2	12
2003	27	NYJ	QB	10	10	9	4-5-0	189	297	63.6	2139	13	4.4	12	4.0	65	7.2	6.3	11.3	213.9	82.9		25	160	6.15	5.28	7.8	2	2	7
2004	28	NYJ	QB	10	13	13	8-5-0	242	370	65.4	2673	16	4.3	9	2.4	48	7.2	7.0	11.0	205.6	91.0		18	103	6.62	6.40	4.6	2	2	10
2005	29	NYJ	qb	10	3	3	1-2-0	49	83	59.0	530	2	2.4	3	3.6	37	6.4	5.2	10.8	176.7	70.9		9	52	5.20	4.16	9.8			2
2006	30	NYJ	QB	10	16	16	10-6-0	313	485	64.5	3352	17	3.5	16	3.3	71	6.9	6.1	10.7	209.5	82.6	62.3	30	172	6.17	5.44	5.8	1	2	12
2007	31	NYJ	QB	10	9	8	1-7-0	179	260	68.8	1765	10	3.8	9	3.5	57	6.8	6.0	9.9	196.1	86.1	49.1	26	178	5.55	4.83	9.1			5
2008	32	MIA	QB	10	16	16	11-5-0	321	476	67.4	3653	19	4.0	7	1.5	80	7.7	7.8	11.4	228.3	97.4	69.7	24	121	7.06	7.19	4.8	1	2	13
2009	33	MIA	qb	10	3	3	0-3-0	51	74	68.9	413	1	1.4	2	2.7	21	5.6	4.6	8.1	137.7	76.0	48.2	6	32	4.76	3.89	7.5			1
2010	34	MIA	qb	10	1	1	1-0-0	1	2	50.0	19	0	0.0	0	0.0	19	9.5	9.5	19.0	19.0	83.3	95.4	0	0	9.50	9.50	0.0			0

When he played near to a full season - an indication he could play - 

8-5
8-5
10-6
11-5

 A total of 37 interceptions over those 4 years, 9 per. In a normal year, Brett Favre would throw 20-25. 

He was brittle. But the argument that a weak arm leads to interceptions is bull. It's more likely that a strong armed QB will toss an INT.

[Buffaloflash]

4 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

I just can't stand his beady little eyes and religious overtone. Nothing personal.

Religious overtone?

[Codyny13]

Peterman looks like a very good future backup for this team. You need 2 qb’s and to have him develop into a frank Reich type player would be great.

[billsbackto81]

32 minutes ago, Buffaloflash said:

Religious overtone?

I think it's well known he was a devote follower of whatever religion he worshipped.

[BillsMafia13]

Buffalos got some good doctors.  What would it take to put NP's brain in to Josh Allens body?

[gsurdam]

MARK MY WORDS... NATE IS THE WEEK ONE STARTER !!!

 

[frostbitmic]

I'd keep the 3 QB's  ... Injuries happen and as yet I don't have a ton of confidence in our o-line. If you do cut one of them, and I do mean cut, who are you going to keep, a guy to play special teams which the league is trying to kill ?

 

At best you'll get a day 3 draft pick and that generally becomes a camp fodder player next year ... just keep the 3 of them.

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

As good as NP looked last night I was still left with a ho-hum feeling. I can only hope Josh becomes a lot more relevant than Chad P. To me he was the definition of average, Career 66% / 102 TDs, 64 INTs/ 200 yds per game. Sound familiar? It should cause we just got rid of a guy just like him but with running ability. I do agree with you that if Nate can evolve into a CP type clone that would be perfect for our back up position but as a starter, no way. Chad was pretty decent but we didn't draft Josh 7th overall to be decent.

Personally, I don't think we should look at backups for Josh Allen until he gets promoted from the 3rd string. It's clear he can do some amazing things, but I'd prefer he not start until he's the best quarterback on the team.

[billsredneck1]

5 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

Sadly I think you have the wrong QB.  McCarron is the trade bait. They love peterman.  

 a.j. has the bigger salary and...

if a starter goes down somewhere, teams will be calling for a.j. and....

there's still a few weeks to go before baltimore.

 

when he starts with the ones and goes against 1st defenses, will he take a bunch of sacks?....go 3 and out a lot? we cannot have that. the cream will rise to the top and that cream may be nate.

Edited August 10, 2018 by billsredneck1

[formerlyofCtown]

4 hours ago, Wsam4031 said:

dude had 2 good series cmon> Not being a hater but lets see him play that way for a whole game and then ill think we have some trade bait. If he plays that well for the whole game id like to keep him though

Those 2 series were a definite improvement.  That's what matters to me and probably to the coaches as well.

[Buffaloflash]

40 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

I think it's well known he was a devote follower of whatever religion he worshipped.

Ohh,I didn't know that.Well as long as its not satan,I'm cool!

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Don't be surprised if we also get Drew Carey and Mimi in the deal.

 

1998 called.  You'd think it was to ask to have their joke back...but no, they actually called to thank you for stealing it, because it sucked.

[Woodman19]

I love the people complaining about the lack of a big arm for Peterman as a reason he shouldn't start when we just had a QB who couldn't throw for 3 years.

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, Lurker said:

While short passing can be effective, you cant't do it exclusively.   Other than the Streeter throw, that was Nate's night:

 

Series 1:

1. 1-10-BUF 15(12:31) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass incomplete short left to 39-T.Cadet. Receiver and coverage at BUF 27. PENALTY on CAR-27-K.Seymour, Defensive Pass Interference, 12 yards, enforced at BUF 15 - No Play.
2. 1-10-BUF 27(12:26) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 18-A.Holmes to BUF 37 for 10 yards (27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 31.
3. 1-10-BUF 37(11:47) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 13-K.Benjamin to BUF 48 for 11 yards (58-T.Davis, 27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 45.
4. 1-10-BUF 48(11:07) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 46 for 6 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 46.
5. 2-4-CAR 46(10:22) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to CAR 49 for -3 yards (97-M.Addison, 29-M.Adams).
6. 3-7-CAR 48(9:47) PENALTY on BUF-62-V.Ducasse, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 48 - No Play.
7. 3-12-BUF 47(9:31) PENALTY on CAR-96-W.Horton, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 47 - No Play.
8. 3-7-CAR 48(9:12) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 34 for 14 yards (26-D.Jackson). Caught along sideline at CAR 34.
9. 1-10-CAR 34(8:39) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 85-C.Clay to CAR 30 for 4 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 35.
10. 2-6-CAR 30(8:07) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 81-R.Streater for 30 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty [92-V.Butler]. Caught near sideline, 6 yds. into end zone. Penalty on BUF-81-R.Streater, Offensive Pass Interference, offsetting, enforced at CAR 30 - No Play. Penalty on CAR-92-V.Butler, Roughing the Passer, offsetting.
11. 2-6-CAR 30(8:01) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 39-T.Cadet to CAR 28 for 2 yards (58-T.Davis). Screen pass, caught at CAR 36.
12. 3-4-CAR 28(7:23) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 13-K.Benjamin for 28 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Caught near sideline at CAR 10.  (the ball was in the air 18 yards and was dropped in, not zipped)

Series 2:

1. -10-BUF 27(2:09) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle to 33-C.Ivory to CAR 44 for 29 yards (26-D.Jackson). CAR-92-V.Butler was injured during the play. Caught at BUF 30, slanting to right. V.Butler walks off.
2. 1-10-CAR 44(1:32) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 45-M.Murphy to CAR 29 for 15 yards (54-S.Thompson, 55-D.Mayo). Screen pass, caught at CAR 49.
3. 1-10-CAR 29(:50) (Shotgun) 45-M.Murphy up the middle to CAR 26 for 3 yards (42-C.Jones).
4. 2-7-CAR 26(:13) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle intended for 33-C.Ivory INTERCEPTED by 54-S.Thompson at CAR 21. 54-S.Thompson to CAR 27 for 6 yards (84-N.O'Leary). Through receiver's hands before INT.

 

 

ok now post a.j. numbers. a guy goes 9-10 (for the most total yds) ...what should have been 2 scores....against a first team defense...and you guys will do anything to pick him apart.  it's way past pathetic and a poor excuse of supposed fans of this team.  oh wait...i get it now...nate must be a republican!

[Lurker]

36 minutes ago, Woodman19 said:

I love the people complaining about the lack of a big arm for Peterman as a reason he shouldn't start when we just had a QB who couldn't throw for 3 years.

 

As I do the people who only see what's in front of their face, and even then struggle to comprehend what they saw...

[Scott7975]

At this point they should still be keeping all 3.

[Real McClappy]

I support Nate, AJ and Allen. I hope out of the bunch all are Franchise QB's, just give me one of the 3 as franchise and I'm a happy MOFO.

 

Peterman looked outstanding last night. I will even go along with the haters and blame the INT on Nate that hit Ivory in both damn hands. He was still the best QB on the field last night and it's not even debatable.

 

Allen was served no justice with 3rd stringers as his WR's and OL were putrid other than Ray-Ray. He def looks raw and what I expected to see. He needs sometime to hone his skills to the NFL level.

 

As of today Nate Peterman should be the Bills game 1 starting QB.

 

To the topic we need all 3 QB's right now. During the season Allen needs to be promoted to #2 to get better reps in practice.

 

Edited August 10, 2018 by Real McCoy

[apuszczalowski]

1 hour ago, Woodman19 said:

I love the people complaining about the lack of a big arm for Peterman as a reason he shouldn't start when we just had a QB who couldn't throw for 3 years.

A QB the fans ran out and wanted gone because of the fact that he couldn't throw....

[Patriot Killa]

Watched a little bit of your team’s game. Peterman looked good last time I was checking in he was 9 for 10 and McCarron was firing over the middle as well. 

 

Good and bad from Allen. Allen’s arm is simply unbelievably strong. The ball jumps out of his hand 50 yards down the field, effortlessly. But he also tried a ridiculously unreasonable move by trying to throw the ball as he was getting hit. Allen definitely should continue to work in the back ground and let McCarron and Peterman duke it out. Allen will have his chance to show why he was the 7th pick but for now i’d let the other two guys go at it.

 

but hell what do I know about QB’s, i’m a Jets fan.? 

 

Hope some of you guys tune into the Jets/Falcons game. See what Sam is about.

Edited August 10, 2018 by Patriot Killa

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, JinxedBill1 said:

Agreed but I think with Allen emerging next year AJM will want to be released or traded to compete elsewhere.

 

We'll worry about that next year.  Doesn't matter that much if he "wants" to be released or not.  IIRC we signed him to a 2 year contract.  We could also give him a raise if we want to.

 

This long term rebuild business is over.  The drought's over.  It's about winning now.  Get and play the best players we can and try to win THIS YEAR.

 

We can worry about next year next year.