HardyBoy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, #34fan said: These horny mountain-goats evolved to be led by their c**ks…. They just use their heads to sort out disagreements. Not sure the motivation for the behavior matters, humans are not evolved for head first contact. These sheep not only have the skull features described in the video, but their necks and muscles along their spines are designed to defuse the force down the full body. Also, they instinctively align their head, neck and backs into a straight line. Unlike humans, they don't duck down, instead they straighten up and turn themselves into a line. Both to give out as much force, but more importantly to create as long a path as possible for the force to dissipate down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I think it's much like the old rule with a simpler and clearer definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: Not sure the motivation for the behavior matters, That's why you hung a clip of two mountain sheep using their primary attack/defense weapon in a mating contest -Something which has nowt to do with the present discussion. 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: humans are not evolved for head first contact. Did someone say they were? 3 hours ago, HardyBoy said: No, this is what something looks like that has evolved to instinctively lead with the head. Humans drop their heads on impact to make themselves as small as possible to avoid contact. To protect themselves. Which is what I said. What's unclear is how the league will interpret this natural instinct. -Looking forward to some strange applications of this kooky rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 17 hours ago, That's No Moon said: 1:30 is the beginning. Here's the thing. Jump. You just launched yourself headfirst, it's impossible to jump and NOT do that. The player was in the process of jumping to make a play, he hadn't even left the ground yet when contact was made. When contact was made (1:59) his head was off to the side and he hit the player primarily with his shoulder in the chest. There is glancing contact between the facemask and the receiver's arm. How ELSE is the safety supposed to do his job on this play? I'm asking seriously because unless there is a legitimate answer they just broke the game with this rule. I cant watch the video at the moment but is the one you’re referring to the play that happened in the end zone? If so, that was ruled defenseless receiver rather than the new helmet rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Has anybody else sat back and thought of the irony of how the Bills finally seem to be heading toward being a serious contender in the next few years yet the game itself is becoming almost unwatchable with all of the rule changes and officiating problems? Kinda makes me depressed. If not for the Bills building something right now I don't know how much interest level I would even have for the NFL. I've already quit watching the NBA after the circus that league has turned into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 The Hall of Fame game at times was a little difficult to watch with all the penalties on what seemed like clean hits where they didn't lead with the helmet. They are asking defensive players to be contortionists now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 4:58 PM, WhoTom said: Over the years, many rules have been implemented in order to protect players from life-threatening injuries. So far, they haven't ruined football - in fact, the NFL is thriving. I doubt that this one will be any different. Idk, it's getting fairly unwatchable, and despite the kneeling issue, I think k most of the decline in viewership is due to crappy rules making crappy football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 I'm probably gonna drop my subscription to NFL network.... It was the only reason I paid for premium cable in the first place. If the games are bad, and the officiating is stupid, -I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 ....too early to tell.....they're STILL working on grasping the definition of a "CATCH"......and 4 Big Dawgs retired...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Did anybody see the textbook wrap up tackle from the Chargers/Cardinals game that was flagged for lowering the helmet? It may not ruin it, but dam sure it is going to have an outcome on a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Didn't seem to be much of a problem on the Bills 1st preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 This thread pops up every time a rule changes. They'll reel back the calls if it gets ridiculous, we are talking about a billion dollar industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, CountDorkula said: Did anybody see the textbook wrap up tackle from the Chargers/Cardinals game that was flagged for lowering the helmet? It may not ruin it, but dam sure it is going to have an outcome on a lot of games. Nope, I'll look that one up. But I did see the guy from the Colts who definitely deserved to be ejected. No place for the garbage he pulled in this game. 1 hour ago, Figster said: Didn't seem to be much of a problem on the Bills 1st preseason game. Nor many of the other preseason games from this weekend. I dont think it was called at all in the Falcons/Jets game, and didnt hear many other fans crying about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 This rule seems incredibly stupid. It's going to be really frustrating seeing all these penalty's for this "illegal" tackle. NFL is really turning into a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Nope, I'll look that one up. But I did see the guy from the Colts who definitely deserved to be ejected. No place for the garbage he pulled in this game. Nor many of the other preseason games from this weekend. I dont think it was called at all in the Falcons/Jets game, and didnt hear many other fans crying about it. This is a problem. If I see this all year I will have to hang em up. You know what team this will go in favor for non-stop right at the most crucial time of a game? More BS subjectivity.... Edited August 13, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Recent studies have shown that "headers" in soccer also can lead to long term physical problems. is that going to lead to helmets in soccer or banning of "headers?" There won't be consistent "helmet rule" calls in the NFL. It's going to lead to a lot more controversy and perhaps injuries of a different sort, such as neck sprains induced by contortions. 7 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: This is a problem. If I see this all year I will have to hang em up. You know what team this will go in favor for non-stop right at the most crucial time of a game? More BS subjectivity.... Ridiculous call. Edited August 13, 2018 by Formerly Allan in MD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Every new rule ruins football, until the opposition dies off or gives up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) They are rampantly increasing the pressure on officials by way of increasing judgment calls, which was too much pressure already. Edited August 14, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The new rule as currently written is ambiguous and bad. It will need to be revised and clarified fast because it’s already clear the officials are having a hard time with these calls (I don’t blame them, the NFL rulebook has become a rats’ nest.) Clear spearing and targeting should be a foul (and possible ejection, depending on severity.) Penalizing milder hits is just reactive PR by the NFL and the ginger king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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