SouthNYfan Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 1:20 AM, greenyellowred said: 7. Doug Marrone ("Saint Doug") - named as the Bills head coach in 2013, he led the Bills to their first winning season in 10 years in 2014: 9-7. He then quit the team with 3 years left on his contract because he didn't like being pressured by GM Doug Whaley to play QB EJ Manuel and was worried about the ownership change. Team captain Freddie Jackson said his treacherous behavior was like being "punched in the stomach". New Bills head coach Rex Ryan said the Bills deserved a loyal coach. Marrone was paid his full salary by Buffalo in 2015, despite signing on to become as Assistant Coach with Jacksonville that season. He went on to become head coach for them and led Jacksonville to its first playoff win ever in the 2017 season. You realize the jags had playoff wins before 2017, right? 5 previous playoff wins, and went to two conference championship games (1997 and 1999). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Mike Gillislee and Chris Hogan ... Any player that leaves the Bills for the patriots is a traitor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 22 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Seems like they could have run 1 more play first ... it's all fuzzy now.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: You realize the jags had playoff wins before 2017, right? 5 previous playoff wins, and went to two conference championship games (1997 and 1999). Lest we forget: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 12:36 AM, Frez said: Should we mention Thurman Thomas? He took off mad and went to play for our #1 enemy at that time......,Miami! That was just weird! fyp. Thurman is number 1. Not only because of what he did, but because that was back in the day when he KNEW what he was doing. The rest of OP's list is just crying and woulda-coulda-shoulda. To me there is only 1 traitor. Every time I see him I wanna just change the channel. Brett Favre coulda went anywhere, but he CHOSE to go to a division hated rival. 4 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Mike Gillislee and Chris Hogan ... Any player that leaves the Bills for the patriots is a traitor. I feel you, but to me, the Patriots are just a rival. Not an arch-enemy. That spot is reserved for Miami. And, let me say, I'm glad that my favorite team has a true arch-enemy. Otherwise I'd be bored. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Lest we forget: Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyellowred Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, maddenboy said: fyp. Thurman is number 1. Not only because of what he did, but because that was back in the day when he KNEW what he was doing. The rest of OP's list is just crying and woulda-coulda-shoulda. To me there is only 1 traitor. Every time I see him I wanna just change the channel. Brett Favre coulda went anywhere, but he CHOSE to go to a division hated rival. I feel you, but to me, the Patriots are just a rival. Not an arch-enemy. That spot is reserved for Miami. And, let me say, I'm glad that my favorite team has a true arch-enemy. Otherwise I'd be bored. Jim Kelly, before he retired in 1997, threatened to go play for our rival Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Fitz.. sucked for us, then came back to beat us in his first game back against us (I cannot remember who he was playing for; was it the Jets?) Anyway, he had his moments as a Bill, but he sucks and is a traitor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Mike Gillislee and Chris Hogan ... Any player that leaves the Bills for the patriots is a traitor. ...yup...Frosty at his finest......cost me ANOTHER pair of Depends, dammit.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Mike Gillislee and Chris Hogan ... Any player that leaves the Bills for the patriots is a traitor. Don’t forget about Stephan Gilmore!! 1 hour ago, maddenboy said: fyp. Thurman is number 1. Not only because of what he did, but because that was back in the day when he KNEW what he was doing. The rest of OP's list is just crying and woulda-coulda-shoulda. To me there is only 1 traitor. Every time I see him I wanna just change the channel. Brett Favre coulda went anywhere, but he CHOSE to go to a division hated rival. I feel you, but to me, the Patriots are just a rival. Not an arch-enemy. That spot is reserved for Miami. And, let me say, I'm glad that my favorite team has a true arch-enemy. Otherwise I'd be bored. Does Mario Williams count then? He want to the fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Idandria said: Don’t forget about Stephan Gilmore!! Does Mario Williams count then? He want to the fish. ..nope...productive when here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...yup...Frosty at his finest......cost me ANOTHER pair of Depends, dammit.............. I'm a stockholder in the company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I'm a stockholder in the company. ...just bought 1,000 pairs AND 1,000 shares..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Guess I'll have to buy the 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 1:20 AM, greenyellowred said: All rights reserved. Copyright greenyellowred. I wouldn't worry. I don't think anyone else will be claiming this as their own. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Idandria said: Don’t forget about Stephan Gilmore!! Does Mario Williams count then? He want to the fish. Rex drove him away, so I don't really count that. 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..nope...productive when here.... Williams made the pro bowl 2 of the 4 years with us. Last year doesn't count, as Rex ruined him. Williams sack totals were: 10.5, 13.0, 14.5, 5.0. He was plenty productive with us. Gilmore was a darn good corner, including a pro bowl his last year. You sound like "sour grapes" are poisoning your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyellowred Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Idandria said: Don’t forget about Stephan Gilmore!! Does Mario Williams count then? He want to the fish. Plus it is rumored Mario didn't study or learn Rex's new system and purposely played bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 2:21 AM, folz said: It's a good list. The only points I would dispute are bolded above. I know what you're getting at with Kelly spurning the Bills in 1983. It really sucked and he was a different guy back then, but there is no way Kelly should be on a list of "traitors" to the Bills, when he is now one of the most loyal and beloved Bills. He just can't be on the list despite how things started out. He made up for the rocky start and then some. Maybe if the list were called something else, you could include him. But not "traitors." And I'm not sure how "only" getting Bennett out of that trade hurt the Bills dearly. Yes, it was a lot to give up, but Biscuit was one of the last pieces of the puzzle for the Super Bowl teams. He was a 2nd overall pick. He wasn't just a guy. In 1988 our pick would have been around 11 -14. How much would it cost to move up from say 12 to 2? That's what the Bills were trying to do this year and were expecting to give up at least their two first-rounders. What if they had given the Giants #12, #22, and Cordy Glenn. It wouldn't be that big of a difference from what the Bills paid for Bennett (who became a borderline/possible Hall of Fame player). Sing it sister! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Stephon Gilmore for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 13 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Rex drove him away, so I don't really count that. On the back of the tandem bicycle, while Rob was at the 'all you can eat' buffet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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