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Some teams have rookies report up to a week early, some - like the Bills - have them report same day as veterans. So what's the catch?  I have to believe that by having rookies report the same day as the veterans, McDermott  is allowed to catch up time with them earlier or later in the pre-season schedule.

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Just now, The Monk said:

The rookie's report on Wednesday, July 25th, and the veterans report July 26th. 

 

Not correct. All players report on the 25th with the 1st practice on the 26th. 

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3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

I heard Allen is already there.

 

He came early because he figured it would take him 7-10 days to find a pen so he can sign his contract.

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18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Not correct. All players report on the 25th with the 1st practice on the 26th. 

:oops:Sorry.

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3 hours ago, Roch-A-Bill said:

Some teams have rookies report up to a week early, some - like the Bills - have them report same day as veterans. So what's the catch?  I have to believe that by having rookies report the same day as the veterans, McDermott  is allowed to catch up time with them earlier or later in the pre-season schedule.

Some teams had the “rookie week” in minicamp and some have it in TC. Bills had them show up a week early for minicamp.

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I know there’s rules behind off/pre season participation, including more practices for teams with new coaching staffs -as we did last year. As far as why not rooks a day or two early this year, I’m pretty sure that’s up to McDermott who obviously thinks his staff prepared the rooks well enough in OTA’s, Rookie Camp & Mini Camp.

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36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He came early because he figured it would take him 7-10 days to find a pen so he can sign his contract.

Can he practice with no contract? 

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9 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Can he practice with no contract? 

 

 

Yes.  He signs a contract of participation that guarantees him the amount his contract would have provided, should he get seriously injured before he signs.

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17 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Can he practice with no contract? 

He already has been 

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1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

He already has been 

Im talking camp.

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Just now, fansince88 said:

Im talking camp.

Ah ok. I think Weo addressed this above

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This contract situation is ridiculous with Allen. The options on terms are so minimal on the current CBA. Why is this taking so long? Ugh

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4 hours ago, Roch-A-Bill said:

Some teams have rookies report up to a week early, some - like the Bills - have them report same day as veterans. So what's the catch?  I have to believe that by having rookies report the same day as the veterans, McDermott  is allowed to catch up time with them earlier or later in the pre-season schedule.

McDermott lost the locker room after the San Diego game last year, so they have no respect for the coaching staff and do what they wanna do.

 

I hear all of our draft picks are studying the playbook with Brady @ the TB12 facility in Foxborough. 

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17 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

This contract situation is ridiculous with Allen. The options on terms are so minimal on the current CBA. Why is this taking so long? Ugh

hes prolly waiting for the rookies picked above him

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28 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

This contract situation is ridiculous with Allen. The options on terms are so minimal on the current CBA. Why is this taking so long? Ugh

 

Because agents want to try to show something to clients that they are worth that large percentage even though money is slotted.

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Some teams had the “rookie week” in minicamp and some have it in TC. Bills had them show up a week early for minicamp.

 

Yes.  As I understand it, there are limits on overall number of practices before training camp, and limits on extra practices for rookies.

Within those limits, it's up to the individual teams whether to schedule a rookie minicamp early in OTAs, just before training camp, etc and whether to use up all their OTA time in the spring, or add it on just before training camp (what I think the Ravens are doing).

 

 

54 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Because agents want to try to show something to clients that they are worth that large percentage even though money is slotted.

 

This is probably posted already in another thread, but this BillsWire article from 5th of July explains that 7 of the top 10 picks are unsigned at this point, including Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Barkley, Ward, Smith, and McGlinchy.  According to this report, it is Offset Language that is the sticking point. 

 

Quentin Nelson has signed, reportedly without offset language but with guaranteed roster bonuses in TC that minimize the impact of no offset language.

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56 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Because agents want to try to show something to clients that they are worth that large percentage even though money is slotted.

 

 

I know, this is still such BS.  This process was briefly streamlined for a bit due to the adjustment in rookie contracts.  Now, we are still looking at a bunch of guys around the league not signed days before camp.

 

Maybe they should just lock in the money in the future and be done with it.

 

How long after the draft was it before Dahlin became a Buffalo Sabre?  A week or two?

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2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I know there’s rules behind off/pre season participation, including more practices for teams with new coaching staffs -as we did last year. As far as why not rooks a day or two early this year, I’m pretty sure that’s up to McDermott who obviously thinks his staff prepared the rooks well enough in OTA’s, Rookie Camp & Mini Camp.

 

...uh oh....the dreaded "camp controversy"?......somehow I doubt this is Dopey Dickie Jauron's "Club Med" on the horizon.....McD knows what he wants and gets what he wants...

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51 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

This is probably posted already in another thread, but this BillsWire article from 5th of July explains that 7 of the top 10 picks are unsigned at this point, including Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Barkley, Ward, Smith, and McGlinchy.  According to this report, it is Offset Language that is the sticking point. 

 

Quentin Nelson has signed, reportedly without offset language but with guaranteed roster bonuses in TC that minimize the impact of no offset language.

 

 

IMO the offset language issue is stupid.  It is player's agents telling player "if you get cut (not perform so much to be overpaid) then you can go to another team to underperform and get paid on speculation while hurting team which you were overpaid from!

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19 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

IMO the offset language issue is stupid.  It is player's agents telling player "if you get cut (not perform so much to be overpaid) then you can go to another team to underperform and get paid on speculation while hurting team which you were overpaid from!

 

...and I'd bet they're waiting to see what guaranteed money Mayfield gets which is the other variable...........

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The Allen contract thing could be a story if he still is not signed a few days from now  I can't understand why both sides would want to drag this out.   Both sides wow where did i hear that before .    

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11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He came early because he figured it would take him 7-10 days to find a pen so he can sign his contract.

I thought he showed up early so he could stand in the doorway and slap everyone's butt as they enter the facility

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Here's an article I found explaining what offset language is, if you're like me and had no idea what that meant. 

 

In short, offset language means if a player is cut during his rookie contract, and his new team signs him equal to or greater than what his salary would have been, the team that drafted him doesn't have to pay him anything. Without it, the team that drafted him is required to still pay him that money he was owed while he plays for another team, allowing for double dipping. So teams like it, players don't, hence the disagreement. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said:

I thought he showed up early so he could stand in the doorway and slap everyone's butt as they enter the facility

 

Right next to an indefinitely clapping McD 😂

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