Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Key questions not addressed (I see where the article came from, not to be expected there): 1) Will Daboll start out with the 100-different-plays-a-week that McCoy/Roman were reputed to expect the players to learn each week? With young, inexperienced QBs and new players/shifting about on OL, not the best move 2) How has Daboll changed/what has he learned since his last stint as OC that might alter his success?https://www.buffalobills.com/news/no-9-what-should-be-expected-from-brian-daboll-s-offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I read elsewhere that it will be a version of the Erhardt-Perkins offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, eball said: I read elsewhere that it will be a version of the Erhardt-Perkins offense. plus a heavy dose of RPO I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Run, run, low percentage pass, punt possibly not in that order. 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 At this point, it's hard to say what his offense will look like, but it will likely be a departure from Dennison's west-coast scheme. There will be some college flavor in there, it's hard to imagine a new NFL OC isn't watching the approach guys like Andy Reid and Sean McVey have taken. My hope is that he waits to formulate the bulk of his offense AFTER he sees what his talent looks like in camp. His starting receivers are likely KB and Streater, with Zay and Kerley slot/4th Wr. He doesn't even know his day 1 qb at this point, nor how his Oline is going to look. With that in mind, this an ultra challenging task for this relatively young dude, and I hope he uses his youth to his advantage and remains open minded about structuring the playbook. Too many times, on both sides of the ball we've seen new coordinators come in and try to force their own system in because it worked with their previous team's personnel. Just last year we saw Rico take away Tyrod's long ball because he wanted to run things differently, Rex hurt our defense in the same way when he came in. Daboll would be wise to see how his troops fight best before he formulates his battle plans. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, eball said: I read elsewhere that it will be a version of the Erhardt-Perkins offense. That just means it could be anything from what the Giants used to run under Kevin Gilbride, to what the Patriots and KC used to run under Charlie Weis, to Chan Gailey. 4 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: (...) My hope is that he waits to formulate the bulk of his offense AFTER he sees what his talent looks like in camp. (...) Way too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Run, run, low percentage pass, punt possibly not in that order. It's the Bills so maybe run punt pass run? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 RPOs, power runs, checkdowns in space to our slot receivers, force feeding clay/KB, screens to shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, WMDman said: RPOs, power runs, checkdowns in space to our slot receivers, force feeding clay/KB, screens to shady Reasonable guess. Positive take from back at the time of the hiring: https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/15/breaking-down-what-bills-can-expect-from-new-oc-brian-daboll/ Negative take from back at the time of the hiring: https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/01/15/brian-daboll-somehow-able-find-meaningful-nfl-work-2018/ Cover1 on the guy: https://www.cover1.net/offensive-coordinator-brian-daboll-could-bridge-the-college-and-nfl-game-in-buffalo/ (have to register for this one) https://www.cover1.net/home/offensive-coordinator-brian-daboll/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, eball said: I read elsewhere that it will be a version of the Erhardt-Perkins offense. I agree. However, my understanding of Erhardt-Perkins is that it is more of a system of organization of the offense and terminology than a specific collection of plays or a specific strategy/philosophy. NE runs Erhardt-Perkins. Sometimes they pass a lot to tight ends, sometimes to WRs, sometimes to RBs. Sometimes they pass long, sometimes they pass short. Sometimes they run the ball a lot. Sometimes they run a quick paced offense. Sometimes they run slow and deliberate. Sometimes they'll vacillate between fast paced and deliberate.Erhardt -Perkins allows for all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Run, run, low percentage pass, punt possibly not in that order. If they can reliably cause teams to muff punts, I am a-OK with them moving down the field that way. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Key questions not addressed (I see where the article came from, not to be expected there): 1) Will Daboll start out with the 100-different-plays-a-week that McCoy/Roman were reputed to expect the players to learn each week? With young, inexperienced QBs and new players/shifting about on OL, not the best move 2) How has Daboll changed/what has he learned since his last stint as OC that might alter his success?https://www.buffalobills.com/news/no-9-what-should-be-expected-from-brian-daboll-s-offense He sat at the feet of the master last year, so he has learned a lot. We saw what he did last year in the National Championship when he had a quarterback who could throw the ball. Edited July 19, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: He sat at the feet of the master last year, so he has learned a lot. We saw what he did last year in the National Championship when he had a quarterback who could throw the ball. It'll be nice having a coach who learned at the feet of the master instead of having a coach who was master of the feet. Looking at you Rexy!!! Edited July 19, 2018 by billsbackto81 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 A mix of New England and Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Run, run, low percentage pass, punt possibly not in that order. Yeah they may just punt first.... good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 My guess is Daboll's offense is going to push the envelope big time. Everything is going to be illusions, smoke and mirrors, pre-snap trickery, misdirection. Nothing will be as it seems. Also, lots and lots of flea flickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 1) Will Daboll start out with the 100-different-plays-a-week that McCoy/Roman were reputed to expect the players to learn each week? With young, inexperienced QBs and new players/shifting about on OL, not the best move I just hope the offense is as effective as it was under Roman. Top 1/3 of the league in scoring coupled with a good D could go a long way. I expect it to be run heavy ground and pound with safe passing. Protect the football. Extend drives more often. Play good D and hope to score 20 will be process I believe. Edited July 19, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Sky Diver said: He sat at the feet of the master last year, so he has learned a lot. Lane Kiffin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Based on his previous NFL OC stints, I think the only way to do this is to set your expectations incredibly low. This way, if they have even a semblance of a passing attack we can all be blown away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Key questions not addressed (I see where the article came from, not to be expected there): 1) Will Daboll start out with the 100-different-plays-a-week that McCoy/Roman were reputed to expect the players to learn each week? With young, inexperienced QBs and new players/shifting about on OL, not the best move 2) How has Daboll changed/what has he learned since his last stint as OC that might alter his success?https://www.buffalobills.com/news/no-9-what-should-be-expected-from-brian-daboll-s-offense From what I've been able to gather so far, my understanding is that Daboll's offense is going to be different week to week and focused on match-ups rather than schemes. Basically it's not trying to take the players that the Bills have and fit them into a system, so much as it's running plays based on the skills players have, and who's covering defensively. This is essentially what the Patriots do. They'll use a dozen different formations and essentially run the same play out of all of them, trying to work the weak links on defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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