Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: So all the other student athletes, toiling away in the weight room, at practice, risking injury, traveling during Break, and competing in their sports at the NCAA level while still going to class, etc. get what exactly? It mentions them getting uo to 25% i believe, their programs. Better than they get now. It's never been about them anyway,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This plan is stupid because most of the guys who are making money for the school are not going to graduate. If they do they do not care about the $50K when they graduate they care about the $12 Million. Rosen needs to concentrate on football. I have a colleague whose son played at FSU a few years back as mainly a backup. He received the free education, free food, trips all over country, stipend per game he was active(I think only when active), and when they went to Orange Bowl he got like 12 grand in swag. I had a sweeter life in college then since-working like a slob with us. So he got paid to play in a bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ditch the whole damned system and set up a proper professional minor league for football. That will never happen, but it should. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This plan is stupid because most of the guys who are making money for the school are not going to graduate. If they do they do not care about the $50K when they graduate they care about the $12 Million. Rosen needs to concentrate on football. I have a colleague whose son played at FSU a few years back as mainly a backup. He received the free education, free food, trips all over country, stipend per game he was active(I think only when active), and when they went to Orange Bowl he got like 12 grand in swag. I had a sweeter life in college then since-working like a slob with us. wow, molten hot take bro. The guy is trying to move the needle in a national discussion which has been roiling for years. 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Ditch the whole damned system and set up a proper professional minor league for football. That will never happen, but it should. History has proven that no one wants this, nor do they want to watch it on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just get rid of the amateur requirement. Guys can sell their autographs for money, do "jobs" for boosters. The big schools already get the best recruits anyways. As a bonus, no title 9 headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Should just legalize gifts and donations from boosters, has been working great for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Saban’s $11mil salary has to come from somewhere I guess... can’t be giving it to the on field talent.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Many in the revenue generating sports are directed toward sham majors designed to keep them eligible with no real career path or marketable skills for the real world. ....but at least there is no salary cap.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Whatever gets me ncaa football video games back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Saban’s $11mil salary has to come from somewhere I guess... can’t be giving it to the on field talent.. Saban is underpaid? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/794275001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Use the Ivy League's system. No scholarships. Create a decent development league and pay athletes who don't care about an education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Sky Diver said: College teams can have up to 125 players on the active roster. 60 - 70 is typical. That’s $2M/yr. That’s big money. Yeah, one Saban endorsement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, Gugny said: Use the Ivy League's system. No scholarships. Create a decent development league and pay athletes who don't care about an education. And what about athletes who want an education and can’t afford college? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It's obvious that most of the posters in this thread have never been involved in even a peripheral way with major college athletics, ie Div 1 football and basketball. I attended a large Midwestern "football factory" university back in the 1970s -- even worked as a tutor for the football team for a semester -- and saw first hand the exploitive nature of big time collegiate athletics. While the situation is better today than back in the 70s, it remains extremely exploitive. "Student athletes" are still recruited to play football or basketball first, and their education is too often directed to simply maintaining their academic eligibility. Most athletes take the minimum number of hours to be considered "full time" students. They spend hours every day in organized practice, and are expected to spend more time in the weight or training room as well as in team meetings. How much studying do you think athletes get done on football game days or on road trips where the basketball team plays 2 or 3 games in 3 or 4 days? Once athletes use up their eligibility or are seriously injured so that they're not able to play, they are kicked to the curb. The schools that are less exploitive are relatively few. They tend to be smaller, less competitive programs, although a few well known national programs like Stanford are among the exceptions. I don't think Rosen's plan is practicable but it's at least a starting point for real discussion on the exploitive nature of big time collegiate athletics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 This is a solution looking for a problem. The current system works. Honestly? I think this is a case of somebody saying ‘hey, there’s a bunch of money over there...I should have some of it’! The athletes are gifted an opportunity. The university has a revenue stream that funds ALL of their sports. The community identifies with the University in town. Non student athletes are drawn together. The country is entertained. I really don’t see a whole lot of ‘exploitation’ going on here. Relax Felecia! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: And what about athletes who want an education and can’t afford college? Student loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Just get rid of the amateur requirement. Guys can sell their autographs for money, do "jobs" for boosters. The big schools already get the best recruits anyways. As a bonus, no title 9 headache. Wont work, you will have the Baker Mayfields, Josh Rosens "signing autographs" for $10 million /yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 When Eric Dickerson walked into a recruiters office at another school than SMU there was $50,000 dollars sitting on the table, he looked at them and laughed "man you guys ain't even close". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Student loan. Let’s make them debt slaves. Good plan. That’s certainly better than the current system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Let’s make them debt slaves. Good plan. That’s certainly better than the current system. college is 100% about 5 football teams to some types of fans. i guess they had no need for college otherwise in their lives.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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