That's No Moon Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 This is getting crazy. The woman, her friends and the lawyer are trying to get this case tried in the court of public opinion and are doing it poorly. Hence the multiple statements some of which now contradict each other, etc. The only benefit to doing this for the client is if you are hoping for a settlement. I would expect a decent lawyer with a case to advise their client to keep their mouths shut in order to prevent what is happening now. You have the lawyer making statements that now contradict what her client actually said on the 911 call. Presumably the lawyer's statement was made to address the Instagram post made by the friend who has now posted again saying that the lawyer forced her to take the post down but that she stands by what she originally said. Well, dummy, that defeats the purpose of taking down the other post and is undercutting what the lawyer is trying to do. You also have the contradiction of the original claim of bruises on the woman's wrist where the assailant couldn't get the bracelet off which I call BS because if someone just pistol whipped you and told you to take a bracelet off you are taking it off. No person is that much of a hard ass staring down the barrel of a gun at 3am. The bracelet was apparently one of the borrowed items that Shady had asked for previously so of course you'd want to include that in your statement right? Except it doesn't make sense for someone to steal that from you because, as it was loaned to them in the first place, they still have to pay for it if it's not returned. It would be a little odd for the bracelet suddenly to show up back at the jeweler's. So now the story changes again to say it was only a ring that McCoy gave her as a gift, nothing else. My thoughts. 1. It makes no sense for this to have been set up by McCoy. The assailant left without getting all the items in question. There is no reason for them to do that. They presumably had control of the situation, they then had the time and ability to go get whatever they needed to get before leaving. Also, McCoy had already previously stated to police his apprehension regarding getting jammed up by this particular person over false claims. He recognized the problem a year ago. Did he suddenly forget when he supposedly set this crime up? If he chose to ignore that knowledge he then set it up for the people to do a half-assed job? The woman was just out of the country. He knew she wasn't home based on security footage he controlled. He could have had the house cleaned out while she was gone and claimed it was a burglary. He didn't do that. The security cameras were installed to make sure the woman didn't clean out the house or destroy the house. The lawyer says there is no text or phone record or documentation form Shady telling her to leave. Well, that's the lawyer telling you in her own words that McCoy hadn't contacted the woman in a very long time because in terms of phone records, anything could have been said in a phone call. To say there is no record means there was no call. 2. It makes no sense for this to have been a targeted crime. Again, they would not have left valuables in the house once they gained control of the house. Nothing. All the jewelry, cell phones, etc. would have been gone. The woman certainly wouldn't have been left to call 911 as soon as the assailant left. She'd have been found on the floor in zip cuffs by her son who heard the commotion, snuck out his window, and returned later. 3. It makes a TON of sense to have this set up by the victim herself. It explains why that single specific piece of jewelry was taken and not anything else. It explains why she was able to make a 911 call so soon afterward. Let's get back to the 16 year old for a minute. Why exactly had he climbed out of his window that night? To avoid the crime? Let's start with that. He was smart enough to sneak out of the house and knew his mother was being robbed and assaulted. He didn't go to the neighbor's house? He didn't call the cops himself? What 16 year old in his situation doesn't have a cell phone? He was far enough away that his mother later said he was taking an Uber home. Where the hell did he go that he was a cab ride away? How did he learn that it was safe to come home if not for, again, the cell phone? So, to me, all of that doesn't make a ton of sense so let's explore the sneaking out. Maybe he snuck out to go do things 16 year olds do and picked a really bad night to do it. OK that makes sense. I want to know what time he left and where he went. I also want to know what his plan was to get back in the house - climb back up? That's not as easy as it sounds. Did he leave the front door unlocked or bring his own key? That seems more likely. That also explains how another person could have entered the home without forced entry. Why sneak out the window though? Going out the window avoids the security cameras in the house which, again if you are a smart 16 year old is something you want to do, but Mom doesn't have control of the new cameras and can't see what you've been doing anyway. Why the effort to avoid the camera then? None of this means Shady DIDN'T set it up. It's entirely possible. I'm just not seeing the logic of it from a person who had clearly gone to great lengths to insulate himself from this person (not having any direct contact, sending his mother to get his stuff, etc.) and her ability to make false claims about him and who was already following the legal process to get her removed from the house. Sabotaging all of that over 1 ring seems pretty stupid when he was a month away from completing the eviction process and being done with it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter... Legally, I think a "squatter" is someone who occupies property without the permission of the owner....usually abandoned or unoccupied property. Apparently at the beginning of her occupancy of the house, McCoy purchased it and invited her to live there with him. Since she had the permission of the property owner to occupy the property and lived there for a period of time (in Georgia, apparently >6 months), then as I understand it, no, she's not a squatter, she has tenant rights and thus must be evicted. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I don't get why she was wearing the bracelet at 3 a.m. Don't most people take off their big rattly jewelry and put it on the bed stand? Also, who was going out of the bedroom, tying sheets together? Her son would tie sheets together to take off and not call the cops? Sounds rigged. Where did he go that he needed an Uber? She said that she was locked in the bathroom. I've never heard of bathrooms being locked from the outside. Her friend accused Shady of everything that's been made famous by NFL players. Dog abuse (Vick), child abuse (Peterson), steroid abuse (he'd have tested positive by now), and beating up a woman (Rice). Shady stayed away from her and had lawyers do the work. Why would he suddenly do something so stupid? If he values jewelry so much, why would he risk an $8 million a year job? I don't get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Not necessarily. They would have to prove he intended for force/injuries to be in the equation, he doesn't have to prove that he said they weren't. If McCoy sent a dude to " Just" take the Jewelry back, but then said dude beat her up, Shady would still be responsible. I read it somewhere. Doesn't matter if Shady didn't want her beat up. I see no charges coming his way. This girl just doesn't seem very credible. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/13/ex-girlfriend-is-no-longer-certain-lesean-mccoy-was-involved-in-attack-buffalo-bills-allegations/ Edited July 13, 2018 by Billsfanatic8989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 One thing that seems to be overlooked is the security/alarm company. They can see if a code was entered to get into the house, or see where the alarm was turned off from or if it was never on at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: If McCoy sent a dude to " Just" take the Jewelry back, but then said dude beat her up, Shady would still be responsible. I read it somewhere. It must be true then? The onus is on the defense to prove intent if he told somebody to "take" the jewelry back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: Pretty sure there are court papers asking her to leave, and I'm pretty sure the MULTIPLE previous evictions indicates that, yes, she is in fact, a squatter... Exactly. In fact, the day of the incident they were supposed to have a court hearing about the eviction. Like June 1st Shady is trying to move her stuff out without ever asking her to leave? Like the public is that stupid? This attorney for Delicia is a train wreck. She is acting like this is her first rodeo. She is trying so hard to put information out there that benefits her client that she is losing track of that information. Meanwhile Shady's attorney's are just sitting back saying nothing like a smart counsel should, that is until they have to. And her statement to Mike Rodak was just borderline stupidity. There has been pending litigation since last year about Shady asking her to vacate. On June 1st your ex boyfriend attempts to move your stuff out and you expect us to believe that before June 1st your client knew nothing about being asked to leave? You expect us to believe that your client has been actively trying to find a place? Meanwhile 40 days after the June 1st incident instead of looking at rentals or calling moving companies she's in London with her girlfriend posting photos on Instagram acting all world traveler? And for the attorney to use her 2 kids as an excuse as to why she hasn't moved yet is pathetic. She's had 40 frickin' days to find a place. It has everything to do with the lifestyle, not her kids. We've seen her past rental history from past landlords on Ripoff report talk about how she bounces checks, doesn't pay rent (because she is broke), Doesn't vacate and when she does she leaves the place destroyed. She knows that without shady in her life she'll go back to living in apartments, or worse yet....she might actually have to get a job and support her kids (shutter the thought). Shady is her golden parachute to get out of this with enough money to last her so she can continue to at least make it look like on social media that she has money and she' has this wealthy life, when in reality she is just a gold digger. Her whole plan this entire time is to wait Shady out so he'll either hand over the jewels or pay her off. Why leave a house when you don't have to? With that being said, if the allegations are true, someone like Shady cannot stoop to her level...and sending someone over to assault her is wrong. You have to be mentally stronger and the bigger person in this case. But right now with the statement her attorney put out there, any credibility she did have has evaporated. She sounds like an attorney for a woman who is positioning herself for a negotiation, which is probably all she wanted in the first place. "I'm not saying he is involved, but I'm not saying he isn't until we get more facts" means "depends on how the negotiations go I can change my mind and cry victim again, so pull out your checkbook and let's talk $$$" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, dezertbill said: This attorney for Delicia is a train wreck. As it looks more and more like Shady is being set up by all of this, this is definitely an indicator. If he were guilty there would be a lot of high powered lawyers lining up to get a piece of the pie. Not so easy to find a lawyer who is willing to help railroad a famous millionaire. Just a thought... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Legally, I think a "squatter" is someone who occupies property without the permission of the owner....usually abandoned or unoccupied property. A squatter is a very strong term basically to categorize homeless people living in a vacant house She's not a squatter in any sense. She's legally being evicted and can legally stay until said eviction goes through court. Edited July 13, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, PetermanThrew5Picks said: A squatter is a very strong term basically to categorize homeless people living in a vacant house Or somebody taking a dump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: This is getting crazy. The woman, her friends and the lawyer are trying to get this case tried in the court of public opinion and are doing it poorly. Hence the multiple statements some of which now contradict each other, etc. The only benefit to doing this for the client is if you are hoping for a settlement. I would expect a decent lawyer with a case to advise their client to keep their mouths shut in order to prevent what is happening now. You have the lawyer making statements that now contradict what her client actually said on the 911 call. Presumably the lawyer's statement was made to address the Instagram post made by the friend who has now posted again saying that the lawyer forced her to take the post down but that she stands by what she originally said. Well, dummy, that defeats the purpose of taking down the other post and is undercutting what the lawyer is trying to do. You also have the contradiction of the original claim of bruises on the woman's wrist where the assailant couldn't get the bracelet off which I call BS because if someone just pistol whipped you and told you to take a bracelet off you are taking it off. No person is that much of a hard ass staring down the barrel of a gun at 3am. The bracelet was apparently one of the borrowed items that Shady had asked for previously so of course you'd want to include that in your statement right? Except it doesn't make sense for someone to steal that from you because, as it was loaned to them in the first place, they still have to pay for it if it's not returned. It would be a little odd for the bracelet suddenly to show up back at the jeweler's. So now the story changes again to say it was only a ring that McCoy gave her as a gift, nothing else. My thoughts. 1. It makes no sense for this to have been set up by McCoy. The assailant left without getting all the items in question. There is no reason for them to do that. They presumably had control of the situation, they then had the time and ability to go get whatever they needed to get before leaving. Also, McCoy had already previously stated to police his apprehension regarding getting jammed up by this particular person over false claims. He recognized the problem a year ago. Did he suddenly forget when he supposedly set this crime up? If he chose to ignore that knowledge he then set it up for the people to do a half-assed job? The woman was just out of the country. He knew she wasn't home based on security footage he controlled. He could have had the house cleaned out while she was gone and claimed it was a burglary. He didn't do that. The security cameras were installed to make sure the woman didn't clean out the house or destroy the house. The lawyer says there is no text or phone record or documentation form Shady telling her to leave. Well, that's the lawyer telling you in her own words that McCoy hadn't contacted the woman in a very long time because in terms of phone records, anything could have been said in a phone call. To say there is no record means there was no call. 2. It makes no sense for this to have been a targeted crime. Again, they would not have left valuables in the house once they gained control of the house. Nothing. All the jewelry, cell phones, etc. would have been gone. The woman certainly wouldn't have been left to call 911 as soon as the assailant left. She'd have been found on the floor in zip cuffs by her son who heard the commotion, snuck out his window, and returned later. 3. It makes a TON of sense to have this set up by the victim herself. It explains why that single specific piece of jewelry was taken and not anything else. It explains why she was able to make a 911 call so soon afterward. Let's get back to the 16 year old for a minute. Why exactly had he climbed out of his window that night? To avoid the crime? Let's start with that. He was smart enough to sneak out of the house and knew his mother was being robbed and assaulted. He didn't go to the neighbor's house? He didn't call the cops himself? What 16 year old in his situation doesn't have a cell phone? He was far enough away that his mother later said he was taking an Uber home. Where the hell did he go that he was a cab ride away? How did he learn that it was safe to come home if not for, again, the cell phone? So, to me, all of that doesn't make a ton of sense so let's explore the sneaking out. Maybe he snuck out to go do things 16 year olds do and picked a really bad night to do it. OK that makes sense. I want to know what time he left and where he went. I also want to know what his plan was to get back in the house - climb back up? That's not as easy as it sounds. Did he leave the front door unlocked or bring his own key? That seems more likely. That also explains how another person could have entered the home without forced entry. Why sneak out the window though? Going out the window avoids the security cameras in the house which, again if you are a smart 16 year old is something you want to do, but Mom doesn't have control of the new cameras and can't see what you've been doing anyway. Why the effort to avoid the camera then? None of this means Shady DIDN'T set it up. It's entirely possible. I'm just not seeing the logic of it from a person who had clearly gone to great lengths to insulate himself from this person (not having any direct contact, sending his mother to get his stuff, etc.) and her ability to make false claims about him and who was already following the legal process to get her removed from the house. Sabotaging all of that over 1 ring seems pretty stupid when he was a month away from completing the eviction process and being done with it. This is well thought out, and makes a lot of sense. ...but it is negated by one simple fact: We're dealing with idiots. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Also is it so hard to believe a 3rd party knew of this situation, knew she would (incorrectly) assume Shady and took advantage of all this nonsense? Shady was incorrectly implicated, not necessarily purposefully implicated and is innocent. And his girlfriend made a wild assumption as to who perpetrated the crime, but is nonetheless a victim of a crime! Nobody is being set up. Someone robbed a woman, beat her, and the woman thought is was Shady. Why are we creating wild scenarios when that is 99% the likely situation. We got some wack detectives working the case at TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: As it looks more and more like Shady is being set up by all of this, this is definitely an indicator. If he were guilty there would be a lot of high powered lawyers lining up to get a piece of the pie. Not so easy to find a lawyer who is willing to help railroad a famous millionaire. Just a thought... Not for nothing but I'm pretty sure that's all most prosecution lawyers do is line up to help railroad people to get a piece of the pie regardless if they are innocent or not. Ambulance chasers if you will. Edited July 13, 2018 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dezertbill said: This attorney for Delicia is a train wreck. Show some respect her name is Pitbull in a skirt Edited July 13, 2018 by Starr Almighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Not for nothing but I'm pretty sure that's all most prosecution lawyers do is line up to help railroad people to get a piece of the pie regardless if they are innocent or not. Ambulance chasers if you will. Yeah but the good ones get to be rich, powerful, and successful by knowing which cases to stay away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Or somebody taking a dump. She MAY be a squatter according to the urban dictionary definition. I hope for her sake the judge isn't from the Simpsons and got his law degree from urbandictionary online law school. 6 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Not for nothing but I'm pretty sure that's all most prosecution lawyers do is line up to help railroad people to get a piece of the pie regardless if they are innocent or not. Ambulance chasers if you will. Lol of course the lawyer is foaming at the mouth to go after Shady. He's got a case and is hoping Shady settles to make him go away. And he come home with a wad of cash and sleeps at night the way only prosecution lawyers know how to do.. soundly and happily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 McCoy: Made simple statement denying allegations. Alleged Victim: Waffling stories between multiple friends, herself and her legal team. As far as I sit, McCoy and his team are playing this perfectly and letting the accusers talk their credibility away. The more they say, the less convincing their accusations and story get. In the beginning, something about this stunk. Then for a moment, things looked like they could be getting bad for Shady. Then their side continued to speak and its back to this really looks like a lot of BS and Shady isn't going to come out of this with any charges or even being named as a person of interest. I mean their are multiple versions of the story, a history of the alleged victim being a scammy and awful tenant, and now they are saying they no longer are certain it had anything to do with shady. Not to mention all the details that dont make sense. As I sit here now, unless something groundbreaking comes up, I think that McCoy is going to be fine and may even have a slander lawsuit he can file against the other side when its all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: She MAY be a squatter according to the urban dictionary definition. I hope for her sake the judge isn't from the Simpsons and got his law degree from urbandictionary online law school. Lol of course the lawyer is foaming at the mouth to go after Shady. He's got a case and is hoping Shady settles to make him go away. And he come home with a wad of cash and sleeps at night the way only prosecution lawyers know how to do.. soundly and happily. I don't think Tanya is a "he", but what do I know? With the nickname "Pitbull in a skirt" (trademarked), maybe it's a he with a different gender identify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Also is it so hard to believe a 3rd party knew of this situation, knew she would (incorrectly) assume Shady and took advantage of all this nonsense? Shady was incorrectly implicated, not necessarily purposefully implicated and is innocent. And his girlfriend made a wild assumption as to who perpetrated the crime, but is nonetheless a victim of a crime! Nobody is being set up. Someone robbed a woman, beat her, and the woman thought is was Shady. Why are we creating wild scenarios when that is 99% the likely situation. We got some wack detectives working the case at TBD. Because if the motive was just robbery it was a pretty half-assed robbery. Go to all that trouble and commit multiple felonies just to take 1 ring and some cash when there is tons of other, small, portable stuff around? If it's a robbery of a person you wait for the person to be home where there are security cameras and possibly/probably weapons? If it was a robbery of the house she was just out of the country and the house was empty you wait for her to come home and then don't take anything from the house? If it was drug addicts needing money they would have taken all the small stuff, particularly the cell phones. If they were professional people they would have taken all the jewelry, cash, cell phones, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Yeah but the good ones get to be rich, powerful, and successful by knowing which cases to stay away from. Eh it's easy money when you have a he said she said case prosecuting a rich man who wants nothing more than to settle and stop you from dragging him in court proceedings when he's got football to do. It's a lawyer's dream really. Is this lawyer going to be rich, powerful, and successful from this case? No but he sees any money. 90% of prosecution lawyers would take this case in a hot minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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