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On ‎7‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 4:59 PM, major said:

Billy Joe Hobert (didn’t have time to look at playbook) 👎. Yours?

Aaron Maybin...Reggie Bush(has another RB averaged neg yds in a season?)...possibly this Peterman kid at QB....

On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:03 PM, Steptide said:

I'm sure many will disagree but :

Jp losman

Trent Edwards 

Aaron maybin

Cornell green

Ej manuel

Mike tolbert

Mike williams

Josh reed

The kicker who replaced Ryan Lindell when he got injured 

I'm sure I'll think of more 

Josh Reed?? are you crazy?

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On 7/9/2018 at 8:55 AM, blacklabel said:

 

I'm trying to make sense of it. Talley was a 2nd round pick and after a slow start to his career, he was a key part of the defense during the Super Bowl runs in the 90s. Made two Pro Bowls and was named first or second team All-Pro by several national sporting publications.

 

Mark Kelso was a 10th round pick of the Eagles in '85, so, I'd say his career was moderately successful as he was likely seen as a guy lucky to make a practice squad. Played in 99 games and recorded 30 career interceptions. Also wore the famous double-bubble helmet while with the Bills.

 

Jeff Wright was taken in the 8th round of the '88 draft. Averaged 4.5 sacks a year as part of the DL rotation. Primarily played nose tackle so, to average 4.5 sacks a year from that spot isn't too bad. And again, super late round pick and we all know late round picks that end up being productive players (or starters, and Wright started 67 out of 98 career games, excluding playoffs, in which he appeared in 16 of those) aren't too common so... wouldn't say he's anywhere near deserving to be on the list of All-Time Not Good Bills Players. Michael Huff, a safety picked by the Raiders one slot before Whitner, also had a very underwhelming career. And he was the consensus top-ranked safety that year, seen as one of the best defensive prospects available and generally looked at as a "can't miss" kinda player.

 

Just looked at the 2006 draft and not one safety from that class had a standout career. In fact, 2006 overall was a pretty rough year for picks. The best players from that entire group: Mario Williams (for a few seasons of his career, including 2014 w/Bills), D'Brickashaw Ferguson, AJ Hawk (for a first round pick his career kinda screams 2nd/3rd round player), Vernon Davis, Haloti Ngata, and Nick Mangold. Those were the first round guys that, IMO, had first-round careers. Andrew Whitworth came out of that draft in round two, he's had a solid career. Jahri Evans was a fourth round guy who, for a time, was one of the top OGs in the league. Stephen Gostkowski was another fourth rounder who may actually go down as the best all-time Patrtiots kicker, yes, even over Vinatieri as Gostkowski's Pats' career is longer than his. Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil were also fourth round choices from that class that have done well. And with the first pick in the fifth round, pick 134 overall, the Buffalo Bills select... Kyle Williams, defensive tackle, Louisiana State. While he's probably not a Hall of Famer, he's most certainly a Bills Wall of Famer and he's had a stellar career for a dude who was seen as a "high motor, good effort guy but ultimately too small to be anything more than a backup at the next level" (that kinda stuff was all over his scouting reports) kinda player. Drafted right after him was Rob Ninkovich, and while he was a douchey Pats player, he had a good career. After that, there are a few other players (like Delanie Walker) that had/are still having decent careers. And wow, I didn't realize how far off track I got but yeah, the '06 draft will not go down as a very good one.

 

Donte Whitner... well, if he had been taken where he was projected (late first round) then there probably isn't too much to complain about. But, he went 8th overall in 2006 and while he put together an 11-year career (starting 152 out of 157 games), made two Pro Bowls later in his career (one with the 49ers in 2012, the other with the Browns in 2014), he only had 11 career interceptions. I always felt like the guy was way too focused on trying to land the big hit rather than playing the ball properly. An 11-year run with two Pro Bowls in the NFL ain't bad but you probably expect more from the #8 overall pick in 2006. Underwhelming as he was, still not one of the worst Bills ever.

 

The OP said s/he named these players under the perspective of "not living up to their potential" which you can maybe apply to Whitner but it's not his fault he was over-drafted. Talley, for a second-round guy, had a solid career. Wright and Kelso, as late round picks, both had fairly solid careers so... I dunno, maybe the OP just doesn't like those guys. Maybe Donte Whitner stole his lunch money one time, I dunno.

 

 

 

 

This was the second half of my post and I prefaced it with letting the team down.  

Talley missed multiple tackles in SuperBowl XXV that helped keep Giants offense on the field,. He was awful in the most important game of his career.  He is also my top overrated player of all time and someone who I don't think deserved Wall of Fame.  That said however, he did have a solid career never being the best LB on the field and playing behind the greatest DE in NFL history.

Kelso was just not that good and also had his worst moments in the SuperBowls.

Jeff Wright, see above for Talley.

 

For me, SuperBowl XXV was the worst moment I've experienced as a Bills fan.  I blame Levy first and then Talley and Wright.  

 

Perhaps the wrong take on the OP question, but my response was prefaced with a slightly different twist on the OP question.

 

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21 hours ago, metzelaars_lives said:

He wasn't very good but he is not in the conversation for the worst player to wear a Bills jersey in the 58 year history of the franchise.

I agree with you he is not the worst Bill ever.  But, I do think he is in the conversation for worst Bill who was a starter.

 

At least the team photo.

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A good player, but, so bad for two years out of position....Kelsay playing LB.  He was so lost in passing downs in coverage.  I remember him getting so twisted around a few times a game he looked like he was going to fall and didn’t know where the ball was.

 

I just felt bad for him!

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20 hours ago, Tcali said:

Aaron Maybin...Reggie Bush(has another RB averaged neg yds in a season?)...possibly this Peterman kid at QB....

Josh Reed?? are you crazy?

It's unbelievable that some people can be such fans of a football team that they take valuable time out of their day to spend time on a website dedicated just to that football team and be so utterly clueless about that football team.  

Edited by metzelaars_lives

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Tony Hunter, 1st round pick TE before Kelly was picked. 

Aaron Maybin, 1st round pick DE

Eric Flowers 1st pick DE

On 7/9/2018 at 8:18 AM, Fadingpain said:

CJ Spiller is not the worst Bills player of all time, but when you measure the amount of time he was able to stay in the lineup and short stay in Buffalo against the fairly high 1st round, 9th overall pick it took to get him...his career would have to be considered one of the bigger busts in team history.

 

 

He ran for 1200 at almost 6 yards a carry 1 year. That is far from a BUST!

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On 7/8/2018 at 7:43 PM, Bad Things said:

I actually have a feeling that he's going to turn out to be a decent player, but solely based on playing time, I think it would be hard to argue that Nathan Peterman hasn't been the worst.

As of now.. maybe worst player on most teams. AS OF NOW. Go Pete!

 

But.. Levi Brown!

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On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 6:29 AM, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Gary Marangi 

 

His 35.3 completion percentage is the worst all-time completion in a season (minimum 200 attempts)

I always use Gary Marangi as a warning of be careful what you wish for.  For years every time Fergy made a mistake I'd hear "We want Marangi" After we got Marangi on the field the fans couldn't wait for the season to end.  The amazing part was they just kept sending Marangi out there every week the rest of the season so he got the number of attempts to qualify as the worst ever.  They would have been better off bringing some other guy with NFL experience in off the street and starting him.  

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On 7/11/2018 at 3:24 AM, JoPar_v2 said:

Kolby Listenbee

Are you sure that's not a character in a Richard Scarry children's book?

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Which ballboy is the better question? 

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