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WR battle... most significant position battle going into TC???


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I'll say right off the bat that I think our WR corps on opening day in Baltimore is Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Jeremy Kerley, Rod Streater, Ray Ray Mcleod and Austin Proehl. 

 

(I hope Brandon Reilly finds his way on that list and I think Foster has a really good chance to make the team or at least get on the PS)

 

But truthfully, how much is our WR Corps actually settled right now???

 

Kelvin Benjamin

 

That's all we absolutely know, for sure, right?

 

So, we're left with about a dozen other guys battling it out for 4-6 spots, depending on how many McDermott wants to keep.

 

Who makes it?

 

We still have Andre Holmes and signed Jeremy Kerley, but how interested are we really in them?

 

I don't even think Holmes makes the team. Kerley might.

 

But aren't we intrigued by the young guys????

 

Rod Streater is my exception here, he's not young, but looked damn good last offseason. Perhaps he's ready to burst into the league?

 

Kaelin Clay and Quan Bray just seem like journeymen already, don't they?

 

Zay Jones just HAS to be a helluva lotta better than he was last year, right? We traded up for him in the 2nd round last year!!! Not to be taken lightly...

 

Then you're left with...

 

Malachi Dupree (clear team investment)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/malachi-dupre?id=2558095

Strengths

Has desired size and athletic ability. Experienced at multiple receiver spots. More talented than production would dictate. Tracks the deep throws like an outfielder and can adjust catch positioning without taking his eye off the ball. Consistently solid catch rate throughout his career. Adjusts to low throws and balls behind him to make the catch. Looks to turn it up the field quickly after the catch. Dips low and drives through cornerbacks while stretching for additional yardage. Small sample size during freshman season gave hints of his downfield potential.

Weaknesses

Lacks upfield juice into his routes. Vertical push doesn't appear to threaten cornerbacks. Needs to play faster off the snap. Slow to sink and open on curls. Needs a greater commitment to nuances of route-running in order to improve his separation. Tends to tip his hand early allowing cornerbacks to match his patterns. Stalk-blocker with marginal aggression and sustain after initial contact

 

Robert Foster (played under Dabol)

http://draftanalyst.com/robert-foster

Pos: 
Underrated receiver who was never a big part of the Alabama offense. Fights with his hands to separate from defenders, tracks the pass in the air and works to make receptions away from his frame. Gives effort as a downfield blocker and gets positive results. Quickly releases off the line of scrimmage and immediately gets to top speed.
Neg: 
Does not play to his 40 time or judge deep passes well. Marginally productive.
Analysis: 
Foster has the size and speed to line up as a third receiver but needs work on his overall game. He must learn to play to his 40 time and become much more productive to have a career at the next level.
 

Brandon Reilly (fan favorite and BEAST last preseason)

http://draftanalyst.com/brandon-reilly

Analysis: 
Reilly is a solid athlete with upside but a prospect who must improve his hands and consistency
Pos: 
Marginally productive college receiver with solid size/speed numbers. Displays terrific focus and concentration and fights to come away with the contested pass. Uses his frame to shield defenders, extends his hands to offer the quarterback a target and keeps the play in bounds running after the catch. Effective blocker in the short and long field.
Neg: 
Lacks naturally soft hands and double-catches throws or outright drops them. Lacks deep speed and cannot run to the long throw.
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Ray Ray Mcleod

http://draftanalyst.com/ray-ray-mccloud

Pos: 
Smallish receiver whose greatest value at the next level may be as a return specialist. Displays quickness, uses the sidelines well and creates yardage when the ball is in his hands. Runs sharp pass routes, fires into breaks and separates from defenders. Extends his hands to make receptions away from his frame, fights to come away with tough receptions and effectively creates yardage after the catch. Easily makes receptions at full speed and looks the ball into his hands.
Neg: 
Lazily comes off the line on occasion. Struggles in battles. Must improve his ball security.
Analysis: 
McCloud is a creative skill player who can be used in the slot, but his bread and butter will be special teams.

 

Austin Proehl

http://draftanalyst.com/austin-proehl

Pos: 
Small but incredibly quick receiver who plays much faster than his 40 time. Fluidly releases off the line of scrimmage, sells routes and can turn it on in a single step. Displays a deep burst, easily makes receptions in stride down the field and displays focus and concentration. Comes back to the ball, adjusts to errant throws and consistently snatches passes away from his frame. Possesses quick, strong hands.
Neg: 
Small and struggles in battles. Lacks true deep speed and a second gear. Marginally productive returning punts.
Analysis: 
Proehl has size limitations but is a natural receiver with outstanding quickness and the ability to separate from defenders. He offers potential as a slot receiver and return specialist if healthy.

 

Cam Phillips

http://draftanalyst.com/cameron-phillips

Analysis: 
Phillips was reliable at the college level but lacks the size, speed and natural pass-catching skill to be anything other than the last man on the depth chart.
Pos: 
Productive receiver with average upside for the next level. Quickly settles into the open spot of the defense, tracks the pass in the air and displays terrific hand-eye coordination. Extends his hands and looks the pass in. Keeps plays in bounds and works to pick up positive yardage. Runs solid routes, stays low out of breaks and separates from defenders.
Neg: 
Not quick releasing off the line of scrimmage, plays to one speed and lacks downfield burst. Does not snatch the ball cleanly away from his frame. Not much of a threat after the catch.
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Honestly, the Ray Ray and Proehl picks were the only ones that baffled me in The McBeane era thus far. With Reilly, Dupre,etc already on the roster, it seemed like wasted picks IMO. I mean, if you are taking a flier on someone that late, with an already full(albeit unimpressive) position room, you should draft on pure physical ability. Size, speed, elusiveness....drafting two small receivers, with questionable consistency is just confusing. Ray Ray is quick enough but Proehl is not. I'm not sure either make the team, or even the P.S.

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....two new QB's and a holdover who by several accounts has been making great strides in practice.....hell, DOWNFIELD may no longer be "uncharted waters"......not to mention a well rested WR corp that was INACTIVE most Sundays........don't throw in the towel and despair quite yet......

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An NFL roster is like playing Whack A Mole. It seems like just yesterday that the Bills WRs were a budding superstar in Watkins, a solid #2 in Robert Woods, and a highly regarded  TE acquisition in Charles Clay. We were supposed to be good to go for many years. Just get those guys a QB and....

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14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

An NFL roster is like playing Whack A Mole. It seems like just yesterday that the Bills WRs were a budding superstar in Watkins, a solid #2 in Robert Woods, and a highly regarded  TE acquisition in Charles Clay. We were supposed to be good to go for many years. Just get those guys a QB and....

 

In this case, Beane and co dug the holes from which those moles are popping out

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3 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

Honestly, the Ray Ray and Proehl picks were the only ones that baffled me in The McBeane era thus far. With Reilly, Dupre,etc already on the roster, it seemed like wasted picks IMO. I mean, if you are taking a flier on someone that late, with an already full(albeit unimpressive) position room, you should draft on pure physical ability. Size, speed, elusiveness....drafting two small receivers, with questionable consistency is just confusing. Ray Ray is quick enough but Proehl is not. I'm not sure either make the team, or even the P.S.

 

I agree. It seems like the WR draft picks were at best lateral moves compared to what we already had on the roster. And personally I liked what we had on the roster more than the draft picks, which speaks volumes because what we had is pretty bottom of the barrel already. After Benjamin and Kerley, the talent level is pretty even or at least very close. I hope a decent receiver (not named dez) gets cut in training camp that we can pick up and serve at least as an upgrade over the stuff we have

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I am fine with the pick ups at WR this year. Lets see what develops.

KB Kerley and Jones are going to start. Someone with speed ( Streater ) is likely IN. and i think they like Dupre.
too early for me  be negative about the players. Let's see if Bills Coaches can run a passing game !
But to Transplants point ?  a lot of competition after 1-3. ain't nuthin wrong with that

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3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I like Foster to make the roster and I also don't think this is the most overlooked battle, its probably the 2nd most watched battle after QB.

O line ?

 I am more concerned with that honestly than the other two.

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1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said:

O line ?

 I am more concerned with that honestly than the other two.

 

Didn't say the most important, he referenced "overlooked" and I was just saying the WR battle is probably the 2nd most talked about battle behind QB, so was just confused by the user of the words "most overlooked"

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11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Didn't say the most important, he referenced "overlooked" and I was just saying the WR battle is probably the 2nd most talked about battle behind QB, so was just confused by the user of the words "most overlooked"

I apologise for losing context !

 Thanks for the note back.
  on occasion i need a friend to help me correct course in dialogue. ?‍♀️

7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

My prediction is that our #2 WR isn't even on the roster at this point.  Rather through trade, free agency, or signing a cut/practice squad player, we have to upgrade.

I don think so Doc Brown.

 Not their style thus far at least.
Maybe next year when they have cash stacked up for FA ? and drafting for Offense as well .

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8 minutes ago, Augie said:

What could Brady do with Proehl? They seem like a match. 

you might mean ?    what can Daboll do with a guy like Proehl ? wink wink

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