Fadingpain Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Steve Billieve said: I'm looking forward to it. I think it will create some interesting and unconventional decisions. Plus it should give our kickers an advantage, as they'll have more opportunities to practice. Yeah, like not kicking the ball under any circumstance, unless you have to on a kick off. More idiotic BS from the NFL...what a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 OP needs to be more specific on this topic at hand. This is concerning ground crew clearing not players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 9 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....shades of the Patsies "snowplow game........... Yes, they're about 30 years too late for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Can the kicker clear a spot on his own? Or tamp down the snow? ‘Tamping’ isn’t clearing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: It's for the grounds crew people, relax. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/06/nfl-adds-15-yard-penalty-for-grounds-crew-clearing-snow-for-a-field-goal/ Sorry, I also was inserting the Snow plow game... Edited July 7, 2018 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Too many rules and this one makes as little sense as any. Why force the holder and kicker to have to deal with deep snow? How is it an advantage if both teams can follow it? I also don't like the rules on movement and alignment. Watch a CFL or Arena League game with all the movement. What's wrong with that? The defense can move all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just now, LittleJoeCartwright said: Too many rules and this one makes as little sense as any. Why force the holder and kicker to have to deal with deep snow? How is it an advantage if both teams can follow it? I also don't like the rules on movement and alignment. Watch a CFL or Arena League game with all the movement. What's wrong with that? The defense can move all over the place. This is not a big deal at all. 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A common practice where kicking team players gather together to clear a space for the kicker to boot a field goal with their shoes is still legal. This rule just prohibits non-players from assisting the kicker in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is not a big deal at all. The wording on the tweet of the OP and that on Profootballtalk is not clear. PFT says " grounds crew or team personnel". Aren't the players 'team personnel"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 14 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Leave the rules as they are, but allow the "D" to throw snowballs at the kicker upon the snap...... ......and hire this guy ASAP Beane. Do we know for sure if this is actually against the rules??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A common practice where kicking team players gather together to clear a space for the kicker to boot a field goal with their shoes is still legal. This rule just prohibits non-players from assisting the kicker in this way. Makes much more sense in that context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Makes much more sense in that context. So now the last few guys on the roster have to be special teams aces AND handy with a snow shovel. Being versatile is a real key to staying in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: So now the last few guys on the roster have to be special teams aces AND handy with a snow shovel. Being versatile is a real key to staying in the league. Forget Brad smith or the joe Webb package If we could find a kickoff specialist/placeholder/gunner/wildcat qb at the next volunteer to shovel at the Ralph event— dude would be worth his weight in thermal underwear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I can foresee situations where it would be beneficial to clear snow away 15 yards behind the location of the hold...then clear away snow at kicking location and take a 15-yard penalty, moving you back to the spot on the field you just cleared. I mean, if your choices are a 30 yard kick in six inches of snow, or a 45 yard kick on a clear spot, what would you do? And what are they going to do, penalize you another 15 yards for clearing a spot on the field you weren't going to use before they penalized you the first 15 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: The wording on the tweet of the OP and that on Profootballtalk is not clear. PFT says " grounds crew or team personnel". Aren't the players 'team personnel"? Straight from the source: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018 - Rule Book.pdf ARTICLE 1. NON-PLAYER FOULS. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct by a substitute, coach, attendant, or any other non-player (entitled to sit on a team’s bench) during any period or timeout (including between halves). Notes: (1) “Loud speaker” coaching from the sidelines is not permissible. (2) A player may communicate with a coach provided the coach is in his prescribed area during dead-ball periods. (3) It is impermissible for the grounds crew or other team personnel to clear away snow for a Try kick, field goal, punt, or kickoff. Penalty: For illegal acts under Articles 1 through 6 above: Loss of 15 yards from team for whose supposed benefit foul was made. (Unsportsmanlike Conduct.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) I demand a 15 yard penalty for drinking water in Miami then. Another example of the NFL outsmarting it's common sense. Edited July 8, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: I can foresee situations where it would be beneficial to clear snow away 15 yards behind the location of the hold...then clear away snow at kicking location and take a 15-yard penalty, moving you back to the spot on the field you just cleared. I mean, if your choices are a 30 yard kick in six inches of snow, or a 45 yard kick on a clear spot, what would you do? And what are they going to do, penalize you another 15 yards for clearing a spot on the field you weren't going to use before they penalized you the first 15 yards? As the defending team, would you decline the penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: As the defending team, would you decline the penalty? Then as the offending team, I keep clearing the snow from the original place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 There are so few games played with snow on the ground, including in Buffalo, that this is a zero impact rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: There are so few games played with snow on the ground, including in Buffalo, that this is a zero impact rule change. That's silly. Zero impact and low impact are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just now, SinceThe70s said: That's silly. Zero impact and low impact are two different things. Zero point zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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