Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Glad I like football better than the NBA. Free agency rules in the NFL are a cake walk compared to the NBA. Between the Rose rule, Bird rights, mid-level exception, luxury tax, biannual exception, non-tax exception, expiring contracts, restricted Bird, etc.. the list goes on . How can anyone figure that thing out! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I know, right? NBA free agency rules are nearly as bad as the NFL's rules for catching a ball... 3 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The NBA's biggest problem is megateams like the Warriors, Celtics, Cavs and Lakers basically control the league. Whoever wins the West this year basically is guaranteed to win it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsIsrael Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Some exceptions are logical and should be copied from the NBA (as much as I agree with you that it's way too complicated there). The Bird rule (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Larry_Bird_exception) makes so much sense - allowing teams to get a discount on the cap to keep the veterans. These are the players that the fans love, the give the team its character, and the top execs who only look at the bottom line should have some incentive to do something for the fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The NBA's biggest problem is megateams like the Warriors, Celtics, Cavs and Lakers basically control the league. Whoever wins the West this year basically is guaranteed to win it all. Just to be clear The Lakers may have controlled the league in the past but have been going through basically 5 years of futility After the "basketball reasons" situation that actually blocked Chris Paul from being traded to the lakers JUST because it was too good of a deal and then the attempt at biulding team with additions of Dwight Howard and Steven Nash....the lakers have been aweful (a lot of this because of bad management of the team) and it took years to dig out of that. Just because Lebron James came to LA does not change this....the lakers have a young core of talent by being god awful this past years....the idea of being aweful is you get blue chip talent which they have done....they have biult the team up now the way it was meant to be....rebiulding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The NBA's biggest problem is megateams like the Warriors, Celtics, Cavs and Lakers basically control the league. Whoever wins the West this year basically is guaranteed to win it all. Not sure you can include the Celtics in that group...they have a hard time attracting free-agents. Most of the top talent they have brought in over the years were the results of trades. The only real big-time talents that they have acquired over the last 10 years or so via free agency are Gordon (who played a total of about 8 minutes for them) and Horford, who is a good, not elite player. Kyrie Irving was obtained via trade...and there is a good chance he will be going elsewhere after this coming season, as he won't talk extension. Honestly, they are my team, so maybe I am biased, but I think the Celtics are building a really good team, the good old fashioned way...through the draft, and solid, if not spectacular mid-level free agent signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The NBA's biggest problem is megateams like the Warriors, Celtics, Cavs and Lakers basically control the league. Whoever wins the West this year basically is guaranteed to win it all. What I don't understand with all the criticism GS gets is they drafted a majority of that roster. God forbid they add a top level free agent, something LeBron has had the luxury of with every single team he's played for. But what do I know, I don't follow the NBA that closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I know nothing about the Bird rule, but I am well versed in Bird Law.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: What I don't understand with all the criticism GS gets is they drafted a majority of that roster. God forbid they add a top level free agent, something LeBron has had the luxury of with every single team he's played for. But what do I know, I don't follow the NBA that closely. Your talking about Lebron going to a team that has basically done what GS has done......most of their talent is home grown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: What I don't understand with all the criticism GS gets is they drafted a majority of that roster. God forbid they add a top level free agent, something LeBron has had the luxury of with every single team he's played for. But what do I know, I don't follow the NBA that closely. Neither do I. I followed the Clippers a little bit but I never got into basketball. I'm just talking with an outsider's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The NBA is a farce. Who's winning the championship next season? I think everyone knows that answer, and it's not even close to their preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Glad I like football better than the NBA. Free agency rules in the NFL are a cake walk compared to the NBA. Between the Rose rule, Bird rights, mid-level exception, luxury tax, biannual exception, non-tax exception, expiring contracts, restricted Bird, etc.. the list goes on . How can anyone figure that thing out! I have been saying this for years. It's unbelievable - I think every player on the roster is on some sort of contact with it's own provisions, etc................The frequent trading of expiring contracts, etc. makes it even more confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, bbb said: I have been saying this for years. It's unbelievable - I think every player on the roster is on some sort of contact with it's own provisions, etc................The frequent trading of expiring contracts, etc. makes it even more confusing. I agree. I'm an NBA fan (Pelicans) and it is really difficult to figure out how much a team has available to spend on free agents when every team in the league seems to be over the cap... which isn't really a cap. There is the "non-taxpayer midlevel exception," the "bi-annual exception," the "trade exception," this exception, that exception... The Pelicans could offer Rajon Rondo exactly $8.641 million due to one of these exceptions... so the Lakers offered him $9 million and he signed with LA. Were he a different category of player they could offer him a different amount. Confusing. And, I have a PhD! 45 minutes ago, joesixpack said: The NBA is a farce. Who's winning the championship next season? I think everyone knows that answer, and it's not even close to their preseason. The Pelicans offered Boogie Cousins $40 million over 2 years... he signed with Golden State for 1 year at $5.3 million. I will seriously root for the field - the entire rest of the league - to win the championship over Golden State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The NBA's biggest problem is megateams like the Warriors, Celtics, Cavs and Lakers basically control the league. Whoever wins the West this year basically is guaranteed to win it all. always been that way in hoops Wilt and Abdul-Jabbar went to the Lakers on demand For my youth the Sixers grabbed Moses after failing a few times with Doc in the Finals, just like that, how brave and ingenious to think this up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: always been that way in hoops Wilt and Abdul-Jabbar went to the Lakers on demand For my youth the Sixers grabbed Moses after failing a few times with Doc in the Finals, just like that, how brave and ingenious to think this up!! I think this is a function of the small number of players in basketball (only 5 on the court). Get 2 or 3 superstars and you can dominate for a long time. With football you need a ton of talent across various positions to field a winning team. I actually think it is a more difficult job to be an NFL GM in some sense. Lebron plus anyone will be a good team in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, October 1918 said: I think this is a function of the small number of players in basketball (only 5 on the court). Get 2 or 3 superstars and you can dominate for a long time. With football you need a ton of talent across various positions to field a winning team. I actually think it is a more difficult job to be an NFL GM in some sense. Lebron plus anyone will be a good team in the NBA. The NBA is telling about 26 teams there is no point in even trying, and what's the point of the draft? for sure about football, i wouldn't last 3 seconds with an NFL exec or coach talking strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: The NBA is a farce. Who's winning the championship next season? I think everyone knows that answer, and it's not even close to their preseason. .....would that be a "no" to "parity"??....just askin'.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, row_33 said: The NBA is telling about 26 teams there is no point in even trying, and what's the point of the draft? for sure about football, i wouldn't last 3 seconds with an NFL exec or coach talking strategy And Dan lebatard thinks that sports drafts are akin to slave auctions. No, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I am not a fan of free agency in any sport. I am for larger pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .....would that be a "no" to "parity"??....just askin'.............. I think you might have misunderstood me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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