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I didn't see a thread about this.  Interesting praise from Shady about his rookie qb. 

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/bills-rb-lesean-mccoy-compliemnts-josh-allen-not-big-fan-rookies-draft-pick/c73t872vib9t1xkvftdo6wvs3

 

“It’s still early,” McCoy said. “I don’t want to make him Jim Kelly already. He just has to learn different things, he’s a rookie, and quarterback is such an important role, he’s like a coach on the field as far as making the right reads, being confident, he has so much he has to learn, from his position to the wide receivers, to the linemen, protections, he has a lot on his plate. But other than that, just talent wise and intelligence, he has it to be a starting quarterback, and also a franchise quarterback."

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Well Shady's exposure to him has been incredibly limited but nice to hear his comments.  I think this one is very telling, "I want to be part of that when he takes over eventually",  I bolded that, i am of the belief it is highly unlikely J Allen will be the starter to begin the season, he is going to need a lot of time to overtake AJ.

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I seen a couple of the quotes, but not all in one place.  Thanks.

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2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Well Shady's exposure to him has been incredibly limited but nice to hear his comments.  I think this one is very telling, "I want to be part of that when he takes over eventually",  I bolded that, i am of the believe highly unlikely J Allen will be the starter to begin the season, he sis going to need a lot of time to overtake HM.

 

I've generally thought they are not going to rush Allen. BUT from what I have read and heard he seems ahead of schedule in his limited work and I could absolutely see him pushing hard for the starter spot. Thing is Peterman looks to be also progressing soo it'll be interesting.

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Just now, corta765 said:

 

I've generally thought they are not going to rush Allen. BUT from what I have read and heard he seems ahead of schedule in his limited work and I could absolutely see him pushing hard for the starter spot. Thing is Peterman looks to be also progressing soo it'll be interesting.

Hope you are right and I am one of the few that still has hope for Peterman, granted not much but hope.

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2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Well Shady's exposure to him has been incredibly limited but nice to hear his comments.  I think this one is very telling, "I want to be part of that when he takes over eventually",  I bolded that, i am of the believe highly unlikely J Allen will be the starter to begin the season, he sis going to need a lot of time to overtake HM.

I wouldn't read too much into that.  Shady knows the plan is to keep Allen mainly with the threes to start training camp.  There is no time frame associated with "eventually."  Personally, I'm not expecting Allen to be the starter in game one either, but after that, who knows?  game 2 in 2018 or game 1 in 2019, or somewhere in between - or later than 2019.  I haven't got a clue. 

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Just where the heck is Savior Peterman when you need him most????????......must be a high level meeting day today........

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Were we expecting Shady to say something like this?

 

"Looking at all the statistical indicators used to predict QB success in the NFL, I just don't see how the Bills view Allen as a future franchise QB.  The analytics and college video just don't support it."

 

Didn't think so.

 

Let's see how training camp unfolds.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Were we expecting Shady to say something like this?

 

"Looking at all the statistical indicators used to predict QB success in the NFL, I just don't see how the Bills view Allen as a future franchise QB.  The analytics and college video just don't support it."

 

Didn't think so.

 

Let's see how training camp unfolds.

Idk... Shady is generally pretty straight forward

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52 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Were we expecting Shady to say something like this?

 

"Looking at all the statistical indicators used to predict QB success in the NFL, I just don't see how the Bills view Allen as a future franchise QB.  The analytics and college video just don't support it."

 

Didn't think so.

 

Let's see how training camp unfolds.

 

 

You're wrong to dismiss what Shady said.  He didn't have to say anything.  He could have ducked the question very easily.  Instead, he talked, about how talented is and how much he has to learn.  Didn't have to say any of that.  I'm guessing it's a pretty fair assessment. 

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I worry about the progress of the O line.  If these guys can't pass block, there's no reason for Allen to be the QB who gets sacrificed.  Look at what happened to David Carr.

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15 minutes ago, Ennjay said:

I worry about the progress of the O line.  If these guys can't pass block, there's no reason for Allen to be the QB who gets sacrificed.  Look at what happened to David Carr.

 

 

look what happened to Peterman in the Chargers game  when the O'line was OLE' ING  the rushers.

 

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1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Well Shady's exposure to him has been incredibly limited but nice to hear his comments.  I think this one is very telling, "I want to be part of that when he takes over eventually",  I bolded that, i am of the belief it is highly unlikely J Allen will be the starter to begin the season, he is going to need a lot of time to overtake AJ.

 

When you're in early June, August is "eventually."  ;)

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I've heard Shady mentioned more than a few times by media guys as one of the more interesting players to talk to. He's not one to give the typical stock answers. He generally has pretty good stuff to say. Based on the quotes I read posted here, seems he's keeping a close eye on the QB competition.

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2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

Just where the heck is Savior Peterman when you need him most????????......must be a high level meeting day today........

Be careful.  If you say his name three times he reappears.  That's one.

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1 hour ago, MDFan said:

Be careful.  If you say his name three times he reappears.  That's one.

If you say it backwards three times will he disappear?

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4 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

I've generally thought they are not going to rush Allen. BUT from what I have read and heard he seems ahead of schedule in his limited work and I could absolutely see him pushing hard for the starter spot. Thing is Peterman looks to be also progressing soo it'll be interesting.

 

...still don't think the Mc Trio will rush to judgment because he is ahead of schedule....."live ammo" is a WHOLE different ballgame.....

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2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...still don't think the Mc Trio will rush to judgment because he is ahead of schedule....."live ammo" is a WHOLE different ballgame.....

 

Don't disagree in the least. I have zero hard data on this but I swear QB's drafted high who wait a bit tend to do better then those thrown to the wolves.

 

Carson Palmer, Jared Goff, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Eli etc.. all spent some amount of time on the bench. Obviously not a guarantee as shown by JP but especially with his talent and areas needed for improvement I have to think it would do wonders.

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4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Well Shady's exposure to him has been incredibly limited but nice to hear his comments.  I think this one is very telling, "I want to be part of that when he takes over eventually",  I bolded that, i am of the belief it is highly unlikely J Allen will be the starter to begin the season, he is going to need a lot of time to overtake AJ.

good catch by you.
and well spoken most all of it by Shady. seems like a bright guy honestly now that he has settled in as  Bills RB. if he has honest enthusiasm about where the Team is headed ? I am cool with that.
Let the Coaching take hold of Allen.
 this is kinda fun

4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Hope you are right and I am one of the few that still has hope for Peterman, granted not much but hope.

Why not, let's hope  for all 3 to progress under new Coaching ? And for different reasons perhaps. Even Peterman : )

What the heck Roy. Tis the season of Hope. enjoy it.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

If you say it backwards three times will he disappear?

Nope we tried that.

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4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Hope you are right and I am one of the few that still has hope for Peterman, granted not much but hope.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Were we expecting Shady to say something like this?

 

"Looking at all the statistical indicators used to predict QB success in the NFL, I just don't see how the Bills view Allen as a future franchise QB.  The analytics and college video just don't support it."

 

Didn't think so.

 

Let's see how training camp unfolds.

 

 

 

So what you are saying is that you really don't know Shady's persona. Because of you did then you'd know he's a straight shooter.  But carry on with your crusade.

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I guess the endorsement of McCarron got lost in the mail

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Copy/paste

 

 

https://www.cover1.net/lesean-mccoy-buffalo-bills-josh-allen/ (an example of one of the multitude of articles on the same PC)

 

Idk, there is a video somewhere. Probably on the Bills official site. It gets old seeing the same press conference being used as material for so many posts, links and "stories." Seriously, it gets comical.

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/LeSean-McCoy-Look-Forward-to-Having-a-Big-Year/b04e6531-07ce-41cc-904a-4725d4d2ae70 (link to the Press Conference so many of these posts/articles are based on)

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I hope Allen barely sees the field this season. I want him to have time to develop and I want Beane to have time to build that offensive line. 

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