OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 ....ABILITY to count on the passing game for 300 yds or whatever it takes to be a viable offensive threat, especially downfield, is FAR more important than the number itself IMO....whether it is 200 yds or 500 yds, as long as the opposition takes the passing game seriously as an offensive threat is all that matters.....look at the Peyton versatility......take away long and he'll beat you underneath.......stack the box to negate RB's in passing game and double TE's in the middle and he'll smoke you long......we have not have had that type of threat since Kelly IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, twoandfourteen said: That's a fair point. However, I would also like to point out that the Bills lost 20 games over the past three years with Tyrod Taylor as the starting QB. So, by this logic-- he had ample opportunities to rack up some "garbage time" yards. Yet, he still only broke through to the promised land one time... and it took him 5 quarters to do it. I think the disconnect here is that the "anti-300" crowd is using that metric in the context of "wins & losses" and the "300 yard games matter" crowd is using it in the limited context of "basic competence at the position". I get your point and can agree. I would use different language than basic competence; I would probably say regularly achieving 300 yards would be good QB play rather than basic competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: 65 yards FIFY 65 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Pete said: I appreciate grammar nazi's. You are a dying breed. I need you to start proofreading my emails and reports Please don't call me a nazi. I didn't even see your mistake. I was more mocking you on the 65 yards thing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 EJ threw for 298 and 296. Our passing attack has been below league average but certain numbers are sort of random. But at least the Bills didn’t picked a qb who only had 2 career 300 yard games against Garner Webb and UNLV. Oh wait. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 6:43 PM, Pete said: 12/24/16 Tyrod went for 329 against Miami. Is it correct that before that the last 300 yard passer was JP Losman throwing for 340 against Texans 11/19/06? I realized we have been horrible passing for a long time, but I didn't realize it was that big a draught. Hopefully whenever Josh gets his shot, he can string together some 300 yard games and bring a new dimension to our offense Yeah, we haven't had any prolific passers since Flutie, and even he wasn't fantastic in that respect (though he had a good amount of 300+ yard games). On the other hand, if it weren't for that Tyrod game going into Overtime, he wouldn't have hit 300 yards even once. We'd be looking at 2006 since our last 300 yard passer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 That JP Losman Houston game is near the top of the list for best Bills QB performance during the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 6:43 PM, Pete said: 12/24/16 Tyrod went for 329 against Miami. Is it correct that before that the last 300 yard passer was JP Losman throwing for 340 against Texans 11/19/06? I realized we have been horrible passing for a long time, but I didn't realize it was that big a draught. Hopefully whenever Josh gets his shot, he can string together some 300 yard games and bring a new dimension to our offense So did we end up winning that game against Texans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 hours ago, BigDingus said: Yeah, we haven't had any prolific passers since Flutie, and even he wasn't fantastic in that respect (though he had a good amount of 300+ yard games). On the other hand, if it weren't for that Tyrod game going into Overtime, he wouldn't have hit 300 yards even once. We'd be looking at 2006 since our last 300 yard passer... This simply is not true - the OP was off on 300 yard games as proven multiple times. I cannot tell if the OP was just bad at research as it was a quick find or trolling people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 TT had one 300 yard game......and people still can’t figure out why we got rid of him Shameful......just shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, BigDingus said: On the other hand, if it weren't for that Tyrod game going into Overtime, he wouldn't have hit 300 yards even once. We'd be looking at 2006 since our last 300 yard passer... No we have had as seen in multiple posts proving you live up to your login name. 3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: This simply is not true - the OP was off on 300 yard games as proven multiple times. I cannot tell if the OP was just bad at research as it was a quick find or trolling people. He is just a big Dungus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I agree with most here, but TT and Fitz are not the same player. TT isn’t a guy who carries his team to victory, but Fitz is a guy who can single handily lose a game. TT can beat mediocre teams, and carry his team to 8-8 and 9-7 seasons when the cards line up. Fitz will always do something to lose, no matter the circumstances. There’s a reason Fitz has never seen a playoff game. Neither are franchise QB’s, but hardly the same player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why even play Quarterback if you can't throw for 300 yards? Why strive for 300 yards when it's an achievement to surpass 200. Baby steps, baby steps. Some day though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Orton had a few and he didn't even start all year. So many people forget about him. He had a fantastic year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: There’s a reason Fitz has never seen a playoff game. and that reason is Leodis. Edited June 9, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Orton had a few and he didn't even start all year. So many people forget about him. He had a fantastic year. A def good passer of the ball His heart wasnt in it though Being a great qb is more then just how many passing yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: A def good passer of the ball His heart wasnt in it though Being a great qb is more then just how many passing yards I still remember his victory cigars. Guy was quite popular around here for a while. It didn't last super long, but people definitely liked that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I agree with most here, but TT and Fitz are not the same player. TT isn’t a guy who carries his team to victory, but Fitz is a guy who can single handily lose a game. TT can beat mediocre teams, and carry his team to 8-8 and 9-7 seasons when the cards line up. Fitz will always do something to lose, no matter the circumstances. There’s a reason Fitz has never seen a playoff game. Neither are franchise QB’s, but hardly the same player imo. Not converting key first downs or scoring points also singlehandedly loses games. (See: Playoff game vs JAX) Tyrod has lost many games for the Bills due to his lack of production. It's just not as obvious as a late INT. They are the same player: competent backups who can easily lose you a game. Edited June 9, 2018 by twoandfourteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Not converting key first downs or scoring points also singlehandedly loses games. (See: Playoff game vs JAX) Tyrod has lost many games for the Bills due to his lack of production. It's just not as obvious as a late INT. They are the same player: competent backups who can easily lose you a game. Fair enough, but I disagree and I’m not a TT fan. TT often failed to make plays that could win games, but he didn’t give away games. Fitz makes plays that lose games which should already be won. Edited June 9, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Not converting key first downs or scoring points also singlehandedly loses games. (See: Playoff game vs JAX) Tyrod has lost many games for the Bills due to his lack of production. It's just not as obvious as a late INT. They are the same player: competent backups who can easily lose you a game. I disagree If your QB isnt making the plays but you are not turning the ball over you have a chance to still win the game If your QB is turning the ball over you have NO chance to win the game.....and the stats for that bear that out...the team won the wrong side of the turnover ratio loses nearly every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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