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12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Seattle game was lost mostly on Groy filling in for Wood.  I’m less sold on Groy being a good full time starter.

 

Evidently the coachin staff is as wel seeing he isnt getting reps with starters currently 

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29 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Seattle game was lost mostly on Groy filling in for Wood.  I’m less sold on Groy being a good full time starter.

 

Groy was in for just (the final) 2 series against the Seahawks with the Bills down 25-31.  Not sure how anyone can pin the blame on him for the game. 

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2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Groy was in for just (the final) 2 series against the Seahawks with the Bills down 25-31.  Not sure how anyone can pin the blame on him for the game. 

Exactly. 

 

He played well in games after Seattle.

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36 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Seattle game was lost mostly on Groy filling in for Wood.  I’m less sold on Groy being a good full time starter.

The Seattle game was 100% lost because of the refs.  

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41 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Seattle game was lost mostly on Groy filling in for Wood.  I’m less sold on Groy being a good full time starter.

tell me more about that game.

 My memory only tell his time filling in for injuries was pretty decent.

 At one time i thought he should take Wood's job soon. But that is just my feeling of his play.


We should perhaps enlist  All- 22  study by some folks here ?

 : )

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

Remember, remember, the 7th of November...

was that the grim day ?
When Groy lost us the game ?

 I am not sure i noticed who to blame for lost games. Team game i try to think : )

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The Seattle game was 100% lost because of the refs.  

remind me please ?

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11 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Cant. I decided to go to bed at a reasonable hour and not torture myself. Seems like a solid call still.

Fair enough answer.

i still need more information to change my positive opinion about Groy.

 Homer thinking ? Likely.

 But I struggled to understand how Ducasse started over him Vlad's first year here. in OTAs. closed minds ?

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

Trust me Beane and McDermott are no where near finished putting together the offensive line...it might be rough this season but they will continue to bring in the right pieces and build up a strong o-line.  Trust The Process

thing about that is

QB can get ruined with a pispoor line. you should NEVER start a rookie under this line, no matter who the final 5 are. six if you comparing them to a basketball team........bad humor

So they are going to take their lumps till next year ?

 They built the Defense before the offense.

 But they drafted the Franchise QB this year ?
 

 if they are fixing the O line next year? they are going via FA and spending the stackedcash available next year.

 

don't like it.

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Seattle game was lost mostly on Groy filling in for Wood.  I’m less sold on Groy being a good full time starter.

 

He did struggle coming off the bench in that game and was then pitted into a competition with Patrick Lewis to start the next week which he won and he played pretty well from there. I am reasonably confident we won't see a big drop off at center. But then I was never the biggest Eric Wood guy to be honest. 

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Bodine has been starting at center during OTA’s. Bengals fans HATED that guy. They said he was by far their worst olineman consistently getting pushed back into Dalton’s lap off the snap. If there is one area that I do see McBeane lacking in its in their offensive line judgment. 

 

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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He did struggle coming off the bench in that game and was then pitted into a competition with Patrick Lewis to start the next week which he won and he played pretty well from there. I am reasonably confident we won't see a big drop off at center. But then I was never the biggest Eric Wood guy to be honest. 

I am a bit pleased here. i considered that perhaps i had  The Rose colored memory glasses on again . Has happened before with me and Bills player evaluation !
I am keen on what this new line does after the snap this season. Especially Center.

 We have had Eric on the team for a long time.
 

 I mean no ill will toward him whatsoever. But he surely knew his limitation when bull rushed by the Fat Kids

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6 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

Bodine has been starting at center during OTA’s. Bengals fans HATED that guy. They said he was by far their worst olineman consistently getting pushed back into Dalton’s lap off the snap. If there is one area that I do see McBeane lacking in its in their offensive line judgment. 

 

depends on the Offense they run.

Beane finds them McD and Daboll etc pick them.
but i share your worries.

 

Bodine is likely fine actually. and heck Groy is lining up as his back up. So no dropoff....

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15 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

Bodine has been starting at center during OTA’s. Bengals fans HATED that guy. They said he was by far their worst olineman consistently getting pushed back into Dalton’s lap off the snap. If there is one area that I do see McBeane lacking in its in their offensive line judgment. 

 

 

They did draft Dawkins in the 2nd round, hopefully, they hit on some of these smaller signing and on the guard they drafted in the 5th. I think if Bodine/Groy hold down the center position and Miller rebounds at RG the O-line has a chance to be decent, but one injury and some regression and it could be a long season. Keep Allen away from starting, I don't want a guy who has issues with footwork playing behind a **** O-line. 

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11 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

Bodine has been starting at center during OTA’s. Bengals fans HATED that guy. They said he was by far their worst olineman consistently getting pushed back into Dalton’s lap off the snap. If there is one area that I do see McBeane lacking in its in their offensive line judgment.

 

Interesting.

 

While not an all-pro, Boling was the center on the Bengals OL since being drafted in 2014.  In 2014 and 2015, the Bengals had a pretty good OL.  I didn't hear any Cleveland fans bitching about Boling and how awful he was.  And for some reason, Andy Dalton looks a lot better when his team is top-10 for sacks allowed instead of bottom 3rd.

 

In 2016 and 2017 the Bengals line took a step back.  In 2016, they lost their RT and replaced him with rookie Oqbuehi.  In 2017, they lost pro-bowl LT Andrew Whitworth for LA, rotation of 2016 RT Oqbuehi to LT, and lost of RG Kevin Zeitler to Cleveland, replacing him with 3rd year UDFA Trey Hopkins.

 

It's possible Bodine has fallen off.  It's also possible that it has to do with who he had next to him. 

 

So who we planning to put next to him.

 

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