WhoTom Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Augie said: You deflate the ball, not the hands. A magnetic ball would be attracted to the anvils. I was aware of the implications...Never mind.... Oops. I guess I dropped the ball on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Oops. I guess I dropped the ball on that one. Join the club! ? Certainly not a big miss on your part...... I apologize to anyone who wasted a blink of their lives on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Did they operate on his hands too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Badanswer said: Could be from that hit last year....looked bad but he came back in 2nd half but was out a few weeks after if I remember correctly I wonder if it was when he kicked the window, the one he was trying to jump out of, naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The weight off all those haters sleepin' on him was more than his knee could take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Had to do the shoulder first Sarcasm? Or thinking he needed to be able to use crutches after knee surgery, which he likely couldn't with the shoulder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 18 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Zay's career is following the Karlos Williams trajectory imo. Started with high hopes, then one setback after another. The drops, the shoulder, the Zay for Jesus and now the knee. Not saying he can't turn it around. However thus many setbacks early typically derail a career before it really begins. Karlos Williams played amazing in nearly every game he played Zay has never played well in an actual game 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 15 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I think it is way too early to give up on the kid like many on here are doing. Rookie WRs have not done well in recent years as it takes them awhile to learn the game. Jones has good speed and size. The Bills need him to be good. Seems like a lame argument considering... Quote Bills trade the 44th and 91st picks to select Zay Jones at #37 & also get back pick #149. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, DrDare said: Karlos Williams played amazing in nearly every game he played Zay has never played well in an actual game Not to split hairs, but he really did. He showed well in the Jets game right before getting hurt. After that he wasn't really on the field as much as Thompson was getting more snaps. Knowing what we do now about the shoulder and the knee being "ongoing" I think it's fair to wonder if he wasnt used as much because they knew he was playing hurt and that limited his effectiveness. Either way, starting a career with so many speed bumps rarely bodes well for a guys career. Which is my original point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Well... Allen's completion percentage just went up 4% with this news. Guess he might actually hit 60% this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sarcasm? Or thinking he needed to be able to use crutches after knee surgery, which he likely couldn't with the shoulder? Not sarcasm. He had to have the labrum surgery first before the knee surgery. The ability to use crutches affects the time they needed to wait in between surgeries. But the order of surgery was based on severity of injury and recovery time for each. If he had a torn ACL, for example, he would have had that done first regardless. Edited May 25, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ALF Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I have confidence in Zay in the long run when healthy. More reps now for other WRs is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 14 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: How many Bills Wrs would be stellar anywhere? None. Not one. zero nada * How many QBs are successful with pitiful WRs. Like last season. and maybe this coming season. * exception Patriot* All those those all become SB MVPS.. Zay is a unusually major disappointment. Not saying Zay hasn't been disappointing, but I still believe the QB is key to a WR becoming good to great. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's You cannot tell me that Tyrod was as good a QB as Ben Rothlisberger and Jared Goff in the passing game. The talent of our WRs would need to be al universe to be able to match the better WRs in the league with Tyrod holding the ball and then running and refusing to throw slants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 zay jones' ceiling is roscoe parrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 He was barely running a few weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 1:53 PM, Blokestradamus said: Dude can't even catch a break. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, JackKemp said: Not saying Zay hasn't been disappointing, but I still believe the QB is key to a WR becoming good to great. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's You cannot tell me that Tyrod was as good a QB as Ben Rothlisberger and Jared Goff in the passing game. The talent of our WRs would need to be al universe to be able to match the better WRs in the league with Tyrod holding the ball and then running and refusing to throw slants. I watched him play. He never seemed to settle down. and he made plenty of mistakes in routine playing.Routes , getting separation and when to do it. Mental stuff really. Stats without context are tough to draw conclusions from for me. How many attempts did each of them get ? just for an example. and yes if you compare any of the Buffalo Wrs to the rest of the league in general terms. they looked pretty weak across the board. So play calling and QBing affected all of them for sure. I don't hate the kid, i just have no reason to feel he is untapped above average potential anymore. Prove me wrong Isaiah !! 1 hour ago, That's No Moon said: So harsh with you people geesh lol ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Not sarcasm. He had to have the labrum surgery first before the knee surgery. The ability to use crutches affects the time they needed to wait in between surgeries. But the order of surgery was based on severity of injury and recovery time for each. If he had a torn ACL, for example, he would have had that done first regardless. OK, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBorBust2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Still can’t believe we passed on JuJu for this bum. Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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