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Minicamp is over!!! TC up next! Predict who wins the starting QB job for Week 1

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  1. 1. Who wins the #1 starting QB job @ Baltimore week 1?



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On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 9:58 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

If I were to guess, I'd say he's getting his fair share of team #1 reps by the end of the Mandatory Minicamp, if not sooner.

 

And another thing, presenting this as a simple stepladder may be a silly way to view this QB competition. Allen may never even be called "the #2," and yet under the obviously watchful eyes of McDermott and Dabol (just look at reports of how much one-on-one Dabol was doing with Allen at BOTH rookie minicamp AND OTAs) he might be named the #1 at whatever point because he's always pretty clearly being evaluated.

 

As to the highlighted, fair enough.  I would think the same if he is headed toward a chance of being the starter day 1.

As for the rest, I guess we'll have to see if he works his way up one step at a time or not. 

 

On ‎5‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:09 AM, Putin said:

I have to disagree ! If ( like your saying) it becomes a close competition between the 3 QB’s and will become a tough decision for the coaches ! ( IMO )  it’s not a thought decision at all you start Allen , 

 

 

If Daboll and McDermott want Josh Allen to start as soon as possible I would agree with you.  If on the other hand they want to bring him around

slower than it could get tough to make the call.

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And to give credit to the OP here:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/206099-josh-allen-is-blowing-people-away-chris-simms/

 

At the 40:26 mark they start talking Allen. Simms claims a source in the media and in the organization and says the kid is just blowing the team away right now, to the point that when the defense isn't lined up practicing they're standing on the sideline watching Allen sling it.

 

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On 5/31/2018 at 2:46 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

And to give credit to the OP here:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/206099-josh-allen-is-blowing-people-away-chris-simms/

 

At the 40:26 mark they start talking Allen. Simms claims a source in the media and in the organization and says the kid is just blowing the team away right now, to the point that when the defense isn't lined up practicing they're standing on the sideline watching Allen sling it.

 

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to be fair, thats not what was said. you may have to go back and listen to it again. they were talking about Wentz when the statment was made about the defense watching the O. 'same type of things'.

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6 hours ago, Foxx said:

to be fair, thats not what was said. you may have to go back and listen to it again. they were talking about Wentz when the statment was made about the defense watching the O. 'same type of things'.

 

Well... I guess I don't know what else 'same type of things,' but here's what he said:

 

 

 

"I had a member of the media up there first tell me and then I talked to, you know, somebody involved in their organization. Josh Allen is blowing people away.  I mean blowing people away. It sounds like almost a Carson Wentz thing. Not only, I think everybody is blown away by the mental approach, but practice is eye-opening like we said it would be.

 

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They’re just blown away. It’s the coaches, the players, everybody. It’s one of those types of things again where I thought about Carson Wentz when I first heard it because those are the things I heard in Philadelphia. I can remember Fletcher Cox actually telling my dad, like, ‘No, no when Carson is out there, the defense kind of gets up and watches him cause we’re always like damn, that was unbelievable.’ And I’m hearing those same type of things from Josh Allen. It’s wowing on all levels right now.”

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Well... I guess I don't know what else 'same type of things,' but here's what he said:

 

"I had a member of the media up there first tell me and then I talked to, you know, somebody involved in their organization. Josh Allen is blowing people away.  I mean blowing people away. It sounds like almost a Carson Wentz thing. Not only, I think everybody is blown away by the mental approach, but practice is eye-opening like we said it would be.

 

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They’re just blown away. It’s the coaches, the players, everybody. It’s one of those types of things again where I thought about Carson Wentz when I first heard it because those are the things I heard in Philadelphia. I can remember Fletcher Cox actually telling my dad, like, ‘No, no when Carson is out there, the defense kind of gets up and watches him cause we’re always like damn, that was unbelievable.’ And I’m hearing those same type of things from Josh Allen. It’s wowing on all levels right now.”

Lets hope that is exactly how it is......

 

If you have the rare QB......it cures a lot of ills

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Does anyone else think the AJ McCarron needs a thumbs up for his OTA work so far?  It's reported he is doing a decent job with the 1's and

is helping Daboll install the new offense.  So far he is doing what he was signed for and I hope it continues.

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1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

Does anyone else think the AJ McCarron needs a thumbs up for his OTA work so far?  It's reported he is doing a decent job with the 1's and

is helping Daboll install the new offense.  So far he is doing what he was signed for and I hope it continues.

 

I hope it continues, too.  :thumbsup:

 

Because if Allen doesn't win the job, it'll bode well that McCarron is lookin good. 

 

And if Allen does win the job, it'll still bode well that McCarron is looking good.

 

 

 

Now, another thing to note, especially those people makin a big deal out of the whole Allen as the 3rd string QB even at this point:

 

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/5-things-we-learned-from-Week-2-of-OTAs/89853d0e-7b51-4b1c-9c12-0833cebb1ee0

2 – Daboll: Don’t make depth chart assumptions
Naturally, Buffalo’s three-man quarterback competition has been the main topic of interest since OTAs began for the Bills. Everyone covering practice is understandably trying to pull whatever telling signs they can from how the quarterbacks are being utilized, rotated in and out and performing.

 

However, offensive coordinator Brian Daboll assures doing that now would serve no purpose as ranking the quarterbacks just isn’t something that’s top priority for the coaching staff at this point.

 

“It’s OTAs, so it’s more of a rep chart, not a depth chart,” Daboll said. “You’re trying to get as much work as you can with all the different groups. Whether it’s a guard going to tackle or a center going to guard or a receiver going from ‘Z’ to ‘X,’ you’re trying to provide as much flexibility within the system. You’re only going to get 46 going into a game, so the more guys know multiple things that’s critical at every position.”

 

And when it comes to quarterback?

 

“All we’re trying to do right now is take one step at a time and put the things in they’ve been working real hard on,” said Daboll. “All the guys and coaches have been working so hard. Just keep on building day by day. It’s so early in the process right now. I think it’ll sort itself out as we go along.”

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On 5/22/2018 at 3:40 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

I think it's Josh Allen.

 

I'll be fine if McCarron wins it.

 

I'll be absolutely floored if Peterman wins it... I think he's more likely on the practice squad than under center week 1.

 

I think Allen has like a 57% chance.

 

McCarron has maybe a 38% chance.

 

Peterman has a 5% chance, if that.

 

 

Allen is obviously the choice of this regime long term. Beane has questioned publicly the media perception of Allen as "raw." Dabol said he has a plan for him and was said to be on him like white on rice all rookie minicamp.

 

It just feels inevitable that the most talented QB who's already the Apple of McBeane's Eyes will win the starting job against one scrub with a noodle arm and one QB with some potential, 4 years on the bench and a handful of quality NFL starts, but also a guy who made it through the 1st wave of Free Agency before Beane finally settling on him.

 

The physical ability is there. The smarts are there. The experience under center is there. The work ethic is there.

 

#17 under center on Sunday, September 9th in Baltimore...

 

what say you?

Get Allen some receivers. Otherwise, let him sit, until we do....

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1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Get Allen some receivers. Otherwise, let him sit, until we do....

 

Meh... Benjamin is a WR. Jones might be. Kerley's a vet. Streater/Dupree/Reilly are Wildcards. If 1 or 2 of those guys other than Benjamin shows up, we're fine with an already upgraded RB corps and a now more experienced, pretty solid group of TEs.

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https://clutchpoints.com/bills-news-tredavious-white-says-josh-allen-will-be-one-of-the-best-young-qbs/

“Josh Allen has been doing a great job of throwing that ball,” White said during an appearance on NFL Network. “I’d say he has a great arm. He’s been throwing it and throwing around. Be on the lookout for Josh Allen, he’s going to be one of the best young quarterbacks in this league for a long time.”

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We havent even seen them in a game situation yet what is the point??

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Early impressions of all 32 NFL first-round picks

QB Josh Allen. Allen has practiced solely with the third-team offense through the first two weeks, so we're still a ways from seeing how he performs with top receiver Kelvin Benjamin and tight end Charles Clayamong his targets. The eye-opening arm strength and ball velocity have been as advertised with Allen, but so has his questionable accuracy. In a two-minute drill to end Thursday's practice, Allen missed a receiver on first down and later telegraphed an interception on third down. He got a second chance and was much sharper, moving down the field for a touchdown. Status: Too soon to tell. -- Mike Rodak

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AJ. 

 

Thankfully, I feel like we have a coaching staff that will do what is absolutely best for the overall success of the team, regardless of the name on the back of their jersey. They won't throw Allen in if he's not absolutely ready.

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I still think Allen will eventually win it, but good thing McCarron is looking good :thumbsup:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/07/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-first-team/amp/

Sean McDermott open to giving Josh Allen first-team reps: 'It's a fluid situation'

This may lead one to believe that McDermott feels as though a veteran quarterback will give the Bills the best chance to win in 2018. It could also mean that he won’t be afraid to start Allen in the 2018 season if he’s ahead of the curve.

 

The coach further explained that Allen is not going to be fast-tracked, stating that there’s a plan in regard to Allen’s development.

 

“It’s early in our process here. We’ve got a plan and we’ve got to stick with it,” McDermott said. “That doesn’t mean we don’t listen and keep our to the ground and our eyes peeled for what’s going on and then adjust accordingly. That’s important. But the important part right now is that we develop a strong foundation and that’s what we’re doing.”

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I will say AJ starts week 1 and plays well enough to start the entire season. Possibly even starts a playoff game. I really think he is better then most people realize and could become a guy that’s hard to bench.

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3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I will say AJ starts week 1 and plays well enough to start the entire season. Possibly even starts a playoff game. I really think he is better then most people realize and could become a guy that’s hard to bench.

 

It's a great problem to have 2 starting caliber QBs... I just don't know how much McCarron really fits the bill there.

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It's happening folks...

 

it's happening :thumbsup:

 

Seems like working up from 3rd string isn't so insurmountable, after all.

 

Anyone out there still really think Allen has only a 5-10% chance of becoming the starting QB week one? :flirt:

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7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

It's happening folks...

 

it's happening :thumbsup:

 

Seems like working up from 3rd string isn't so insurmountable, after all.

 

Anyone out there still really think Allen has only a 5-10% chance of becoming the starting QB week one? :flirt:

 

Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process.

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4 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process.

10 whole snaps with the 1’s = super bowl!!!!!

 

catch the fever!!!

 

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6 hours ago, Bangarang said:

 

Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process.

 

Oh... 

 

it's early...

 

and Allen seems all poised to take the reins this Summer.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wkbw.com/2617781973/7-observations-from-2018-buffalo-bills-minicamp-day-two.html

1) Josh Allen has his best day yet
- After watching four practices of Josh Allen with the whole team, I wrote on Tuesday that he has mainly given up and down performances to this point. However, on Wednesday, he had his best day yet without surrendering a throw that makes you utter, 'Well, what was that?' Allen took one set of first-team reps, just as he did on Tuesday, and opened it up by throwing a dart of a touchdown to Jeremy Kerley. He continued in working with the third-team offense the remainder of the day by continuing to show his clear ability throwing the ball that's just a cut above everything else the Bills have on their roster at the position. Now the one thing I did notice him do a couple of times was trying to get away with making a play with only his arm while sacrificing his footwork. There are times where he won't have a chance to set his feet and make a throw during a game, but in these specific instances he had the time to do so, and it cost him an incompletion. However, that was about as much as you could say in a negative light for Allen's practice on Wednesday, and the Bills have to be happy with the progress that he's made already in this short time.

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Getting all 3 reps with all 3 teams best thing to do.

You might see a connection between JA and a second string backup, or you might see a connection between AJ and a projected third string wr that leads to that guy being brought up to second string.

Due diligence to get every QB reps with every wr combo.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Okay, so here's what I think is going on: McDermott's "plan" is and has been to have McCarron start and let Allen watch.

 

But it's a "plan" only, I believe, in the sense that it's something he can count on. When you set low/realistic expectations, anything beyond is cherry. Sure, he can't count on Allen being ready because it's still so early in the process of evaluating him. But plans change.

 

I really think he and Dabol are going to have some seriously long talks over the next 6 weeks about how to maximize Allen's development while managing to protect him as a rookie starting QB because as cryptic as McDermott can be, I think he can see that Allen's ahead of the anticipated curve and that the rest of the team can see that, as well.

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