Trogdor Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Augie said: No front office gets them ALL right, but I love our guys so far! The guy who signed them no longer works for the team lol so it's like a nice send off gift from Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Trogdor said: The guy who signed them no longer works for the team lol so it's like a nice send off gift from Whaley. Whaley got em?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Whaley got em?? Both were signed when he was still GM. To his credit, he was an amazing pro scout, he just couldn't draft for ****. It probably didn't help that we changed schemes every other year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Both were signed when he was still GM. To his credit, he was an amazing pro scout, he just couldn't draft for ****. It probably didn't help that we changed schemes every other year. Who drafted last year. Starting to think Whaley and McD would be the dream team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Who drafted last year. Starting to think Whaley and McD would be the dream team Well, his 2015 and 2016 classes had a lot of good players. We just happened to give away a bunch of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Yes there were good things Whaley did but it is hard to demote someone in NFL from top job. Since scouts were also fired it is clear that McD's strategy is to tear down and then rebuild rather than evaluate and replace what is needed which makes keeping Crossman so much more surprising. Note: he has no issue with throwing away (wasting money) staff he hired either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 8 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: How about "deep trouble" Nice. Gotta include Tre in the mix too preferably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I could be wrong, but I thought Star had a name as a run stuffer and a guy who could "keep the LB clean", not a pass rusher you are correct. but i feel he will be the lynchpin for the pass rushers, and LBs etc to become a better overall defense. If he plays up to his ability. I think he will. 7 hours ago, bobobonators said: Im ecstatic about our secondary in general. Poyer and Hyde are smack in the middle of their prime at 27yrs old. T White was amazing as a rookie. And V Davis has something to prove. Our secondary is easily the strongest unit on our team. As for the pass rush i dont see how people are expecting much better results this yr. The bright side is that it at least cant get much worse so there is that to look forward to. Lol. We’ll probably rank in bottom ten in sacks again unless Hughes has a resurgance and Shaq somehow figures things out. Our run D should be amazing this yr though. I'll take it ! 38 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Nice. Gotta include Tre in the mix too preferably. the whole gang ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I wish Poyer's last name were de Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 makes the Byrd firing look worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Nice. Gotta include Tre in the mix too preferably. Yeah I'll just say that's a good name for the secondary in general 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jr1 said: makes the Byrd firing look worse I'm on the record for saying we needed him back. Our secondary was scary unproven at the time. 1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said: Yeah I'll just say that's a good name for the secondary in general We'll need another good season to legitimize this, but totally on board. "The deep trouble process" What's the sports term for the process being complete? that's what I want, make it sound like it's a work in progress and I want to make it sound like they've already arrived before the process began. The deep pick payoff Edited May 19, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Deep trouble is simple tho, might have to stick with that for now, but if these guys keep up the turnovers. I'd like to add that in. "the danger zone" "The guys that will ensure Gronk's early retirement" lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Deep trouble is simple tho, might have to stick with that for now, but if these guys keep up the turnovers. I'd like to add that in. "the danger zone" "The guys that will ensure Gronk's early retirement" lol There is no “early” retirement for Gronk... he is a seasoned veteran and has already contemplated retirement hes way closer to the end than the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There is no “early” retirement for Gronk... he is a seasoned veteran and has already contemplated retirement hes way closer to the end than the beginning 1. that was in jest, that our secondary is going to wish he retired after cheapshotting Tre. 2. he's 29 in his prime, ready to smash every TE record in the book. if that's not the definition of early retirement I don't know what is. How is he closer to the end? he just had one of his best seasons. Brett Favre contemplated retirement at 37-40 otherwise known as seasoned. Tony G contemplated retirement at 38. Seasoned. Gronk's not early retirement. Idc when you "contemplate retirement". heck I'm contemplating a desk job retirement at 29, but I guess that's not early since I'm as seasoned as gronk. Bruh Patrick Willis was considered early retirement at 32 or 33 and he's a friggin linebacker. #lawyered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: 1. that was in jest, that our secondary is going to wish he retired after cheapshotting Tre. 2. he's 29 in his prime, ready to smash every TE record in the book. if that's not the definition of early retirement I don't know what is. How is he closer to the end? he just had one of his best seasons. Brett Favre contemplated retirement at 37-40 otherwise known as seasoned. Tony G contemplated retirement at 38. Seasoned. Gronk's not early retirement. Idc when you "contemplate retirement". heck I'm contemplating a desk job retirement at 29, but I guess that's not early since I'm as seasoned as gronk. Bruh Patrick Willis was considered early retirement at 32 or 33 and he's a friggin linebacker. #lawyered. He has had multiple back surgery’s and a lot of injuries ... it wouldn’t be an early retirement Im willing to bet he doesn’t play 5 more years... he is beat up He is a beast that doesn’t mean he isn’t beat up bad and who says bruh or # anything lmao this isn’t twitter. I read your statement , it’s not a contest Edited May 20, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He has had multiple back surgery’s and a lot of injuries ... it wouldn’t be an early retirement Im willing to bet he doesn’t play 5 more years... he is beat up He is a beast that doesn’t mean he isn’t beat up bad and who says bruh or # anything lmao this isn’t twitter. I read your statement , it’s not a contest young people do. I'm sensing hostility. I say it's not an early retirement, you disagree. A lot of other players have played through these issues past 29. I lay the hashtag when you get lawyered, until you provide me precedent, you've lost to the judge. You did not counter any points. You just talked about bruh and hashtags. And you're a gronk sympathizer. Not cool. Hope he gets beat up even more, cause Tre White sure doesn't like getting beat up in the head in between plays. Edited May 20, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: young people do. I'm sensing hostility. I say it's not an early retirement, you disagree. A lot of other players have played through these issues past 29. I lay the hashtag when you get lawyered, until you provide me precedent, you've lost to the judge. You did not counter any points. You just talked about bruh and hashtags. And you're a gronk sympathizer. Not cool. Hope he gets beat up even more, cause Tre White sure doesn't like getting beat up in the head in between plays. I don’t know where you are sensing hostility. You are calling yourself the judge and that’s what I question lol your hashtag and idk where you get Gronk sympathizer he’s a scumbag # lawyered do I win Edited May 20, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don’t know where you are sensing hostility. You are calling yourself the judge and that’s what I question lol and idk where you get Gronk sympathizer lol he’s a scumbag # lawyered do I win mostly your dislike of of the word bruh and hashtags. Anyways in a court if you don't counter any points, (Tony G, B Favre, Patrick Willis) you lost to the judge. So I didn't see any counterpoints raised to disagree with Gronk's early retirement. So don't see the lawyer move. #lawyered bruh. (light hearted trolling) Agreed Gronk sucks. So I won't give him early retirement, I'll call him a quitter. Edited May 20, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: mostly your dislike of of the word bruh and hashtags. Anyways in a court if you don't counter any points, (Tony G, B Favre, Patrick Willis) you lost to the judge. Agreed Gronk sucks. So I won't give him early retirement, I'll call him a quitter. I don’t need to counter your point because every player is different some want to play 15 years some don’t. Barry Sanders left with a lot left and I believe Gronk will... thats my opinion some like Favre can’t walk away Edited May 20, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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