List of other Sub 60% college qbs with some NFL success

[stinky finger]

30 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

 

Parcells was different he had like 4 rules for drafting a QB (must have started 3 years, won so many games, etc).

 

That 26-27-60 rule was made up by an SI reporter (https://www.si.com/more-sports/2010/07/08/qb-rule) and as far as I can tell he picked 60% because it was round. Higher completion % is obviously better but I don't see any statistical significance with that number.

 

Allen's comp % is 4.7% less than Rosen's but people are acting like he can't hit the side of a barn. 

 

This - and Allen isn't an A-hole like Rosen.

[The Now Moment]

12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The most successful NFL QB taken in the draft since the NFL realignment in 2002 with a  college completion percentage under 58% their final year of college was David Garrard.  The odds are against Allen regardless of how you spin it.  

There are so many factors that go into a completion percentage and everyone puts it on the QB.  The offensive line and receivers need to do their jobs as well, Wyoming didn't provide much support at all as opposed to the other 

QBs that were drafted in the top 10.  The odds were stacked against Allen when he was at Wyoming, here he has some weapons.  

Edited May 7, 2018 by Buffalo30

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

There are so many factors that go into a completion percentage and everyone puts it on the QB.  The offensive line and receivers need to do their jobs as well, Wyoming didn't provide much support at all as opposed to the other 

QBs that were drafted in the top 10.  The odds were stacked against Allen when he was at Wyoming, here he has some weapons.  

Have you seen our o-line and WR core?  

[aceman_16]

The crowd who thinks "accuracy equals completion percentage" are absolutely mislead.  Completion percentage should ALWAYS be seen as a team metric vs accuracy should be seen as placement.  Zay Jones did not help Tyrod's completion percentage.  You could have had the most "accurate" QB in the league tossing the ball to him last year,  but with his lead hands would have killed that QBs completion percentage.

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, racketmaster said:

When discussing Josh Allen, inevitably his career  college completion percentage (56.2%) comes up in the conversation. Most analysts seem to be in agreement that there are very few examples in recent history of quarterbacks who have had sub 60% completion percentage and still had NFL success. Favre and Stafford seem to be the most cited examples of the anomalies. Therefore, Allen will have to be an “outlier” in order to have any measure of NFL. Allen is thought to end up being the next Jake Locker or Kyle Boller.  I tend to believe that completion percentage does not necessarily equal accuracy (many other factors come into play). But that discussion has been had many times before and I was just interested in seeing what other quarterbacks may be out there that had a sub 60% completion percentage and also a decent amount of NFL success. I went back to quarterbacks drafted 1990 and forward. I know the game has evolved since then and completion percentages tend to be much higher today because of the types of schemes teams tend to run at the college level. But I still think it was worth looking into especially since Allen has not run a gimmicky college offense but rather  he has operated in a pro style passing offense where he has been asked to make a higher percentage of difficult downfield throws (more like what quarterbacks were asked to do in the 1980’s and 1990’s).

 

Below is a list of other quarterbacks who have had at least a decent career and also had a less than 60% completion percentage in college. I know “decent” is subjective but I was looking at quarterbacks who have at least stuck around a long time as high end backups or at least had brief periods of solid success as a starter. This is not a complete list but I think it covers most if not all of the quality starters drafted from 1990 to the Present.

 

Brett Favre 52.4% Southern Miss. 1990

Mark Brunell 52.0% Washington 1993

Kerry Collins 56.3% Penn State 1995

Drew Bledsoe 54.3% Washington State 1993

Brian Griese 59.5% Michigan 1998

Jeff George 58.8% Illinois 1990

Jake Plummer 55.4% Arizona State 1996

Jeff Garcia 56.8% San Jose State 1994

Donovan McNabb 58.4% Syracuse 1999

Neil O’Donnell 58.8% Maryland 1990

Trent Dilfer 59.1% Fresno State 1994

Trent Green 55.8% Indiana 1993

Jake Delhomme 52.6% Louisiana 1997

Matt Hasselbeck 55.6% Boston College 1998

Mike Vick 56.0% Va Tech 2000

Tyrod Taylor 57.2% Va Tech 2011

Colin Kaepenick 58.2% 2011

Matthew Stafford 57.1% Georgia 2009

Josh McCown 51.2% SMU 2002

Carson Palmer 59.1% USC 2003

Kyle Orton 58.8% Purdue 2005

David Garrard 57.0% East Carolina 2002

Jay Cutler 57.2% Vanderbilt 2006

Matt Ryan 59.9% Boston College 2008

Brian Hoyer 55.8% Michigan State 2009

Derek Anderson 50.7% Oregon State 2005

Chad Henne 59.7% Michigan 2008

 

After looking back at the quarterbacks, I was surprised to find so many that were sub 60% since 1990. I was under the impression that there were only a handful since Brett Favre came out but there were at least 6-7 high quality starters in the group. Hopefully, this gives those stuck on Allen’s lower completion percentage a little more hope. And the positive thing for Allen is that he has some rare physical traits that can help him overcome the perceived inaccuracy issue.

 

 

The thing that makes people worry is that very few of the people on that list are from the last 12 - 15 years. That's 28 years of data and most of the people are from the first ten years or so, when QB ratings tended to be much lower. If you look at only 2005 and later, the last 13 years, excluding Allen himself you have Henne, Derek Anderson, Hoyer, Matt Ryan, Cutler, Orton, Stafford, Kaepernick and Tyrod. And outside of Matt Ryan and Stafford, that's not an illustrious group.

 

The bottom line, though, is that situations differ, and Allen's success will have little to do with college completion percentage. It'll be about how well he sticks with his mechanics changes, how well he comes along on understanding NFL defenses, and how well he learns to go through progressions correctly and make the right decisions quickly. And likely how quickly he will be asked to play. 

 

Like DeShaun Watson last year, Allen is thought of as a developmental guy. But also like DeShaun Watson, Allen spent months working with Jordan Palmer after the season ended. This catapulted Watson forward in his development and understanding of the NFL game. It may well have done the same with Allen. I personally hope that he still sits the bench this year ... the more he knows before he gets out there the better. But if he does end up starting sometime this season, Jordan Palmer's tutelage will likely be a large part of the reason and hopefully will have him much readier than he would(n't) have been otherwise.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Thurman#1

[The Now Moment]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Have you seen our o-line and WR core?  

Mccoy, Clay, Benjamin are better than people give them credit for, they weren't healthy last year.  Jones could turn it around. They are still going to rely on Shady to carry the load, it's not like the QB has to do it all.  Plus, we have a top ten defense IMO.  A solid running game and a solid defense will be enough for this year.  We can reload the offense next year...trust the process, it takes time to build a contender.

[Da webster guy]

2 hours ago, racketmaster said:

I really like his accuracy on intermediate throws. His wrs rarely had much separation and he frequently fit the ball into tight windows even while on the move. Allen's accuracy seemed to be off on the "easier" throws such as a bubble screen or rb checkdown in the flat. 

these are the ones that are fixable, thankfully.  And because they're easy on the arm, a qb can practice a hundred shorties a day.    He'll come around if he works hard, Tyrod got a lot better at his touch on short passes the longer he played. 

[Protocal69]

 

Here is the list of the highest college completion rates for qb since 1998. You can use your 'Ctrl F' on your keyboard to try your favorite QB. Point is having a high college completion rate is also not a predictive factor on succes in the NFL.

1	Riley Ferguson*	63.14	2016	2017	Memphis
2	McKenzie Milton*	62.79	2016	2017	UCF
3	Mason Fine*	62.05	2016	2017	North Texas
4	Dru Brown*	61.98	2016	2017	Hawaii
5	Andrew Ford	61.98	2016	2017	Massachusetts
6	Justice Hansen*	60.70	2016	2017	Arkansas State
7	Sam Darnold*	64.89	2015	2017	USC
8	Jake Browning*	64.42	2015	2017	Washington
9	Manny Wilkins*	63.38	2015	2017	Arizona State
10	Brett Rypien*	62.73	2015	2017	Boise State
11	Trace McSorley*	61.83	2015	2017	Penn State
12	Eric Dungey	61.67	2015	2017	Syracuse
13	Jason Driskel*	61.11	2015	2017	Florida Atlantic
14	Josh Rosen*	60.85	2015	2017	UCLA
15	Chase Litton*	60.77	2015	2017	Marshall
16	Riley Neal	60.75	2015	2017	Ball State
17	Luke Falk*	68.31	2014	2017	Washington State
18	Deshaun Watson*	67.44	2014	2016	Clemson
19	Brandon Silvers*	64.40	2014	2017	Troy
20	Brent Stockstill*	63.58	2014	2017	Middle Tennessee State
21	Patrick Mahomes*	63.53	2014	2017	Texas Tech
22	J.T. Barrett*	63.50	2014	2017	Ohio State
23	Mason Rudolph*	63.23	2014	2017	Oklahoma State
24	Ryan Finley*	62.64	2014	2017	North Carolina State
25	Nick Stevens*	61.88	2014	2017	Colorado State
26	Nick Arbuckle*	61.86	2014	2015	Georgia State
27	Matt Linehan*	61.23	2014	2017	Idaho
28	Kent Myers*	61.12	2014	2017	Utah State
29	Taylor Lamb*	60.71	2014	2017	Appalachian State
30	Gunner Kiel*	60.62	2014	2016	Cincinnati
31	Baker Mayfield*	68.54	2013	2017	Oklahoma
32	Greg Ward Jr.*	67.45	2013	2016	Houston
33	Jameis Winston*	66.04	2013	2014	Florida State
34	Zach Terrell*	65.47	2013	2016	Western Michigan
35	Logan Woodside*	65.09	2013	2017	Toledo
36	Kenny Hill*	64.92	2013	2017	Texas Christian
37	Chad Kelly*	63.89	2013	2016	Ole Miss
38	Ryan Higgins*	63.55	2013	2016	Louisiana Tech
39	Paxton Lynch*	62.90	2013	2015	Memphis
40	Sefo Liufau*	62.82	2013	2016	Colorado
41	Tyler Jones	62.62	2013	2016	Texas State
42	Jared Goff*	62.31	2013	2015	California
43	Cooper Rush*	62.01	2013	2016	Central Michigan
44	Mike White*	61.95	2013	2017	Western Kentucky
45	Jake Rudock*	61.67	2013	2015	Michigan
46	Bryant Shirreffs*	61.55	2013	2017	Connecticut
47	Davis Webb*	61.52	2013	2016	California
48	Joshua Dobbs*	61.46	2013	2016	Tennessee
49	Johnny Manziel*	68.95	2012	2013	Texas A&M
50	David Fales*	68.12	2012	2013	San Jose State
51	Cody Kessler*	67.49	2012	2015	USC
52	Brett Hundley*	67.45	2012	2014	UCLA
53	Marcus Mariota*	66.75	2012	2014	Oregon
54	Shane Carden*	66.62	2012	2014	East Carolina
55	Kevin Hogan*	65.91	2012	2015	Stanford
56	Matt Johnson*	65.37	2012	2015	Bowling Green State
57	Bo Wallace*	62.98	2012	2014	Ole Miss
58	Dak Prescott*	62.79	2012	2015	Mississippi State
59	Marquise Williams*	61.30	2012	2015	North Carolina
60	Everett Golson*	61.20	2012	2015	Florida State
61	Trevone Boykin*	61.18	2012	2015	Texas Christian
62	Brandon Doughty*	68.61	2011	2015	Western Kentucky
63	Teddy Bridgewater*	68.39	2011	2013	Louisville
64	Blake Bortles*	65.66	2011	2013	UCF
65	Cody Fajardo*	65.13	2011	2014	Nevada
66	Sean Mannion*	64.58	2011	2014	Oregon State
67	Taylor Kelly*	63.29	2011	2014	Arizona State
68	Chuckie Keeton*	62.92	2011	2015	Utah State
69	Rakeem Cato*	62.73	2011	2014	Marshall
70	Bryce Petty*	62.72	2011	2014	Baylor
71	Connor Halliday*	62.06	2011	2014	Washington State
72	Brett Smith*	61.96	2011	2013	Wyoming
73	Garrett Grayson*	61.81	2011	2014	Colorado State
74	Jeff Driskel*	60.70	2011	2015	Louisiana Tech
75	A.J. McCarron*	66.86	2010	2013	Alabama
76	Bryn Renner*	66.47	2010	2013	North Carolina
77	Dominique Davis*	65.91	2010	2011	East Carolina
78	Connor Shaw*	65.48	2010	2013	South Carolina
79	Corey Robinson*	64.67	2010	2013	Troy
80	Tajh Boyd*	64.27	2010	2013	Clemson
81	Keith Price*	63.99	2010	2013	Washington
82	Terrance Owens*	63.05	2010	2013	Toledo
83	Keith Wenning*	63.03	2010	2013	Ball State
84	Nathan Scheelhaase*	62.96	2010	2013	Illinois
85	Aaron Murray*	62.31	2010	2013	Georgia
86	James Franklin*	62.14	2010	2013	Missouri
87	Jordan Lynch*	61.77	2010	2013	Northern Illinois
88	Pete Thomas	61.71	2010	2014	Louisiana-Monroe
89	Logan Kilgore*	60.97	2010	2013	Middle Tennessee State
90	Seth Doege*	69.00	2009	2012	Texas Tech
91	Geno Smith*	67.44	2009	2012	West Virginia
92	Andrew Luck*	67.01	2009	2011	Stanford
93	E.J. Manuel*	66.89	2009	2012	Florida State
94	Derek Carr*	66.69	2009	2013	Fresno State
95	Sean Renfree*	64.65	2009	2012	Duke
96	Tino Sunseri*	64.50	2009	2012	Pitt
97	Ryan Aplin*	64.47	2009	2012	Arkansas State
98	Matt Barkley*	64.08	2009	2012	USC
99	Colby Cameron*	63.82	2009	2012	Louisiana Tech
100	Zac Dysert*	63.76	2009	2012	Miami (OH)
101	Landry Jones*	63.58	2009	2012	Oklahoma
102	Alex Carder*	63.29	2009	2012	Western Michigan
103	Austyn Carta-Samuels*	62.44	2009	2013	Vanderbilt
104	Tyler Tettleton*	62.35	2009	2013	Ohio
105	Bryant Moniz*	62.23	2009	2011	Hawaii
106	Nick Florence*	61.80	2009	2012	Baylor
107	Jeff Tuel	61.34	2009	2012	Washington State
108	G.J. Kinne*	61.26	2009	2011	Tulsa
109	Kyle Padron*	61.18	2009	2011	SMU
110	Kellen Moore*	69.78	2008	2011	Boise State
111	Brandon Weeden*	69.54	2008	2011	Oklahoma State
112	Robert Griffin III*	67.11	2008	2011	Baylor
113	Kirk Cousins*	64.10	2008	2011	Michigan State
114	Levi Brown*	62.89	2008	2009	Troy
115	Tyler Wilson*	62.55	2008	2012	Arkansas
116	Ryan Tannehill*	62.53	2008	2011	Texas A&M
117	Zach Collaros*	61.94	2008	2011	Cincinnati
118	Chandler Harnish*	61.89	2008	2011	Northern Illinois
119	Darron Thomas*	61.26	2008	2011	Oregon
120	Austin Davis*	61.10	2008	2011	Southern Mississippi
121	Terrelle Pryor*	60.92	2008	2010	Ohio State
122	Russell Wilson*	60.91	2008	2011	Wisconsin
123	Blaine Gabbert*	60.88	2008	2010	Missouri
124	Case Keenum*	69.36	2007	2011	Houston
125	Sam Bradford*	67.64	2007	2009	Oklahoma
126	Nick Foles*	66.81	2007	2011	Arizona
127	Taylor Potts*	66.27	2007	2010	Texas Tech
128	Max Hall*	65.34	2007	2009	Brigham Young
129	Jimmy Clausen*	62.61	2007	2009	Notre Dame
130	T.J. Yates*	62.26	2007	2010	North Carolina
131	Christian Ponder*	61.76	2007	2010	Florida State
132	Andy Dalton*	61.66	2007	2010	Texas Christian
133	Mike Hartline*	61.17	2007	2010	Kentucky
134	Ben Chappell*	61.07	2007	2010	Indiana
135	Giovanni Vizza	60.73	2007	2008	North Texas
136	Colt McCoy*	70.33	2006	2009	Texas
137	Chase Holbrook	69.35	2006	2008	New Mexico State
138	Riley Skinner*	66.94	2006	2009	Wake Forest
139	Tim Tebow*	66.43	2006	2009	Florida
140	Dan Lefevour*	66.42	2006	2009	Central Michigan
141	Tyler Sheehan*	64.66	2006	2009	Bowling Green State
142	Sean Canfield*	64.11	2006	2009	Oregon State
143	Todd Reesing*	63.79	2006	2009	Kansas
144	Andy Schmitt	62.84	2006	2009	Eastern Michigan
145	Matt Grothe*	62.46	2006	2009	South Florida
146	Omar Haugabook*	61.29	2006	2007	Troy
147	Zac Robinson*	61.06	2006	2009	Oklahoma State
148	Colt Brennan*	70.39	2005	2007	Hawaii
149	Graham Harrell*	69.77	2005	2008	Texas Tech
150	Chase Daniel*	67.99	2005	2008	Missouri
151	Pat White*	64.75	2005	2008	West Virginia
152	Drew Willy*	64.22	2005	2008	Buffalo
153	Cullen Harper*	63.56	2005	2008	Clemson
154	Tim Hiller*	63.00	2005	2009	Western Michigan
155	Willie Tuitama*	61.60	2005	2008	Arizona
156	Rudy Carpenter*	61.04	2005	2008	Arizona State
157	Brian Johnson*	66.17	2004	2008	Utah
158	Brian Brohm*	65.82	2004	2007	Louisville
159	Andre Woodson*	61.89	2004	2007	Kentucky
160	JaMarcus Russell*	61.86	2004	2006	LSU
161	Caleb Hanie*	61.04	2004	2007	Colorado State
162	Blake Mitchell*	60.71	2004	2007	South Carolina
163	Clint Marks*	66.01	2003	2006	Middle Tennessee State
164	Matt Leinart*	64.82	2003	2005	USC
165	Omar Jacobs*	64.49	2003	2005	Bowling Green State
166	Drew Stanton*	64.18	2003	2006	Michigan State
167	Paul Smith*	62.54	2003	2007	Tulsa
168	John Beck*	62.41	2003	2006	Brigham Young
169	John David Booty*	62.26	2003	2007	USC
170	Jared Zabransky*	62.24	2003	2006	Boise State
171	Vince Young*	61.84	2003	2005	Texas
172	Kevin Kolb*	61.60	2003	2006	Houston
173	Chris Leak*	61.39	2003	2006	Florida
174	Shawn Bell	61.16	2003	2006	Baylor
175	Drew Tate*	61.01	2003	2006	Iowa
176	Bruce Gradkowski*	68.21	2002	2005	Toledo
177	Sonny Cumbie*	65.48	2002	2004	Texas Tech
178	Joel Klatt*	61.17	2002	2005	Colorado
179	Kellen Clemens*	60.99	2002	2005	Oregon
180	Jeff Rowe*	60.78	2002	2006	Nevada
181	Ben Roethlisberger*	65.49	2001	2003	Miami (OH)
182	Jason Campbell*	64.64	2001	2004	Auburn
183	Charlie Frye	63.58	2001	2004	Akron
184	Brian Lindgren	61.00	2001	2003	Idaho
185	Matt Schaub*	66.98	2000	2003	Virginia
186	B.J. Symons*	64.36	2000	2003	Texas Tech
187	Philip Rivers*	63.57	2000	2003	North Carolina State
188	Ryan Dinwiddie*	62.70	2000	2003	Boise State
189	Ryan Schneider	62.04	2000	2003	UCF
190	Casey Clausen*	61.02	2000	2003	Tennessee
191	Josh Harris*	60.99	2000	2003	Bowling Green State
192	Rex Grossman*	60.99	2000	2002	Florida
193	Eli Manning*	60.82	2000	2003	Ole Miss
194	Kliff Kingsbury*	65.37	1999	2002	Texas Tech
195	Wes Counts	65.05	1999	2001	Middle Tennessee State
196	Jason White*	63.33	1999	2004	Oklahoma
197	Josh Heupel*	63.27	1999	2000	Oklahoma
198	Byron Leftwich*	65.12	1998	2002	Marshall
199	George Godsey	63.27	1998	2001	Georgia Tech
200	Tim Rattay	65.40	1997	1999	Louisiana Tech
201	Chad Pennington*	63.57	1997	1999	Marshall
202	David Carr*	62.71	1997	2001	Fresno State
203	Drew Brees*	61.14	1997	2000	Purdue
204	Tim Couch	67.15	1996	1998	Kentucky
205	Daunte Culpepper	65.72	1996	1998

[Ol Dirty B]

2 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:

Now let’s put together a list of 62% and up QB’s that didn’t amount to anything. I bet that list is even longer.

 

His list only includes guys that had decent NFL careers.

 

The list of guys under 60% who didn't amount to anything or be even given an opportunity is even longer than that one.

 

What a stupid point.

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Chosenone said:

Here are Russell Wilson's college stats! 54%, 59% and 58% his 3 yrs at NC State.

 

2008	NC State	150	275	1,955	17	1	54.5	133.9	116	394	3.4	4
2009	NC State	224	378	3,027	31	11	59.3	147.8	103	260	2.5	4
2010	NC State	308	527	3,563	28	14	58.4	127.5	143	435	3.0	9
2011	Wisconsin	225	309	3,175	33	4	72.8	191.8	79	338	4.3	6

That's interesting because NC State played a spread offense that relied on the passing game while Wisconsin employed a pro style offense with more emphasis on balance.  The biggest reason for these increase in stats were there was a drastic improvement in the quality of the o-line and running game (Monte Ball lead the league in rushing in 2011).  The defense at Wisconsin was also superior as they ranked 4th in the nation in 2011.  Because of these factors, he threw the ball less (309 times vs. 527 the year before) and he didn't feel the need to force throws down the field to try and keep up with his opponents offense.  He also dedicated himself more to football in his senior year in learning Stanford's playbook as he managed to graduate from NC State in three years.  I don't see much of a comparison to Josh Allen.

[17 Josh Allen]

Bottom line in my opinion the 3 best QB’s In this 2018 draft are Allen, Jackson and Rudolph. Those were my favorites and it will be fun watching all of these QB’s preform through out their careers.  

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Many of those played in old school offenses as did our QB which explains his lower than today's prospects percentage.

 

 

Great he'll fit right into this regime old school have no clue about offense approach.  Championship!

[GoBills808]

59 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

That's interesting because NC State played a spread offense that relied on the passing game while Wisconsin employed a pro style offense with more emphasis on balance.  The biggest reason for these increase in stats were there was a drastic improvement in the quality of the o-line and running game (Monte Ball lead the league in rushing in 2011).  The defense at Wisconsin was also superior as they ranked 4th in the nation in 2011.  Because of these factors, he threw the ball less (309 times vs. 527 the year before) and he didn't feel the need to force throws down the field to try and keep up with his opponents offense.  He also dedicated himself more to football in his senior year in learning Stanford's playbook as he managed to graduate from NC State in three years.  I don't see much of a comparison to Josh Allen.

Point being a decent chunk (12% for Wilson) of your completion percentage is directly related to how good of a team you happen to be on. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

23 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Great he'll fit right into this regime old school have no clue about offense approach.  Championship!

 

Dabol has been around champions he knows what to do.

 

 

[ColdFront_USAF]

10 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:

Now let’s put together a list of 62% and up QB’s that didn’t amount to anything. I bet that list is even longer.

 

Here you go.

 

Note: I only went from 2000-2015 as many of the players from there on haven't had a chance to start, sitting behind entrenched starters. I also apologize if anyone disagrees with the names on here. I'm too young to remember a lot of these names, and like the OP said, it's a subjective topic. I was more going for players who's completion percentage does not directly correlate to NFL success. I also went from 60% and up instead of 62%.

 

The other thing to look at here, it becomes really really obvious when college systems started changing over to a spread look. Early on in the list, there are very few guys with 60%. As it goes, you will see a ton of guys with great completion percentages in college who have had little to no success in the NFL. 

 

2000

Chris Redman 61.4
Tim Rattay 65.4
Joe Hamilton 61.7

 

2001

Josh Heupel 63.3

 

2002

David Carr 62.7
Brandon Doman 62.1

2003

Byron Leftwich 65.1
Rex Grossman 61
Kliff Kingsburry 65.4

 

2004

Josh Harris 61
B.J. Symons 64.4

 

2005

Charlie Frye 63.6
Sefan Lefors 66

 

2006

Matt Leinart 64.8
Kellen Clemens 61
Ingle Martin 62.1
Omar Jacobs 64.5
Bruce Gradkowski 68.2

 

2007

JaMarcus Russell 61.9
John Beck 62.4
Jeff Rowe 60.8
Troy Smith 62.7

2008

Brian Brohm 65.8
John David Booty 62.3
Dennis Dixon 63.9
Erik Ainge 60.6
Colt Brennan 70.4
Andre Woodson 61.9

 

2009

Mark Sanchez 64.3
Pat White 64.8
Nate Davis 60.3

 

2010

Tim Tebow 66.4
Mike Kafka 64.1
Dan Lefevour 66.4
Tony Pike 61.7
Levi Brown 62.9
Sean Canfield 64.1
Zac Robinson 61.1

 

2011

Blaine Gabbert 60.9
Christian Ponder 61.8
TJ Yates 62.3
Greg McElroy 66.3

 

2012

Robert Griffin III 67.1
Brandon Weeden 69.5
Chandler Harnish 61.9

 

2013

EJ Manuel 66.9
Geno Smith 67.4
Matt Barkely 64.1
Ryan Nassib 60.3
Tyler Wilson 62.6
Zac Dysert 63.8
Sean Renfree 64.7

 

2014

Johnny Manziel 68.9
Aaron Murray 62.3
Zach Mettenberger 61.8
David Fales 68.1
Keith Wenning 63
Tajh Boyd 64.3

 

2015

Garrett Grayson 61.8
Sean Mannion 64.6
Bryce Petty 62.7

 

Special Mentions:
Matt Schaub 67
Tarvaris Jakcson 35.4 (yes really)

[stuvian]

great topic. That list reads like a hall of pretty good

[nucci]

Can we watch him practice as a Bill? This completion % stuff is old. Time to move on

[ddaryl]

LMFAO...

 

no reason for these posts  anymore. The fact remains in the modern NFL QB who have thrown for less than 60% average in College have flamed out in the NFL at a MUCH higher rate.

 

yes thee are anomalies but in the last 10 years the number of sub 60% QB's going on to have great careers is diminishing considerably.

 

If you need to make yourself feel better about the Allen draft pick your just gonna have to wait it out like the rest of us and see if he can function on the field. That's all you can do because you can't change the reality and that is we got ourselves a project QB with high ceiling and a low floor

[jrober38]

If you just look at the names since 2000, it's a really sorry list of quarterbacks.
 

This list does nothing to convince me Allen was the right pick. All this does is show me how rare it is to find a franchise QB who didn't complete more than 59% of their throws in college. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by jrober38

[Nanker]

13 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:

Now let’s put together a list of 62% and up QB’s that didn’t amount to anything. I bet that list is even longer.

Colt McCoy 70.3

Byron Leftwich 65.1

Geno Smith 67.4

Charlie Frye 63.6

Marcus Mariota 66.8

Brian Brohm 65.8

RG3 67.1

Brett Hundley 67.4

Riley Skinner 66.9

Tim Tebow! 66.4

Rob Johnson 64.6

Tim Couch 67.1

Sam Bradford 67.6

Robbie Bosco 64.0