BobbyC81 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, bmur66 said: Kimmy is the Queen. Get used to it. Long live the Queen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, eball said: Name an owner in the NFL who doesn’t consult with his GM or coach. I don’t think you understand how this works. Exactly. If I owned a team I would certainly expect to be consulted/reported to by my managers. Some fans are pretty naive on there view of these things. When you own a business that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: More people means more problems. I thought it was more money, more problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: More people means more problems. No... Mo money, mo problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 There is absolutely zero evidence that Terry and/or Kim stick their noses in the football side. At best McBeane run things by them just to make sure they know and that's probably all there is to it. Maybe there are some political/league image aspects to player moves that need to be considered, but that's probably it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Doc said: There is absolutely zero evidence that Terry and/or Kim stick their noses in the football side. At best McBeane run things by them just to make sure they know and that's probably all there is to it. Maybe there are some political/league image aspects to player moves that need to be considered, but that's probably it. Kim said as much in her interview on NFLN a few weeks ago. She said they don't watch tape, don't do evaluations. They leave that to the people they pay to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Given their tremendous record of success with both teams since taking ownership, I have every confidence in Kim's ability to now function as president of three major organizations at the same time. How hard can it be? What could go wrong? Dis you even read the context of the messages ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Nothing against Kims qualifications -- i do think she could handle this job. But don't worry if Kim does bad Terry will just fire her right guys??? Some owners are not involved at that level where they are suggesting who the GM should draft, that's just not how most of them are. Most of them leave that stuff to the experts they have hired. Some like Jerry Jones get more involved and it causes problems typically. Robert Kraft got involved recently when he forced the garapolo trade and told belichik to suck it up and deal with Brady for as long as Brady wants. It's not good when stuff like that happens Wrong. Owners have to get involved to some extent. Do you honestly think after last seasons protests which the Pegula's directly had to get involved with their players, that they didn't speak with Allen also regarding the tweets posted and whether they wanted a player like him in the organization depending on what he had to say. I would be slightly concerned if my owner had absolutely no idea about any player moves given how personality and character especially in today's world can have drastic consequences if your not paying attention. Plus in a position like QB that individual is expected to be the face of your franchise for hopefully 10-15 years and someone you are going to pay millions upon millions of dollars. If my team was making that type of commitment I'd want to at least be involved a little in the process. I would still let my GM make the call but I wouldn't be asleep at the wheel. ALL OWNERS are involved. The difference is to what degree. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder especially are the anti-thesis of what you want. They are too involved and as a result cause to many problems. At the other end of the spectrum the Rooney's from Pittsburgh almost forced Big Ben out after his sexual misconduct and motorcycle crash because they didn't want that associated with their organization. Finding a healthy balance of where to be is key and teams like Pittsburgh/NYG typically are models of this. The Pegulas with both teams took some time to find the healthy middle ground of not being overly involved. Rex Ryan's hire was their failure, but to the same token McBeane is looking like their success and in general they now seem at a safe distance. The single most important thing is for the owner, gm, and coach all to be on the same page and vision. Issues arise very quickly like we saw with Whaley with Marrone/Ryan when things aren't in unison and the owner sides with one of the other. Edited May 3, 2018 by corta765 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 At that level, really you're managing your people, not the football side. Or the Hockey side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Kim said as much in her interview on NFLN a few weeks ago. She said they don't watch tape, don't do evaluations. They leave that to the people they pay to do it. Yep I just watched that yesterday. She said they just want to be in the conversations and meet the players but aren’t making decisions on their ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Yep I just watched that yesterday. She said they just want to be in the conversations and meet the players but aren’t making decisions on their ability. I see her as a good influence on the organization. She killed that interview, I love Terry, but sometimes his interviews aren't half as good as hers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) They handed a 4-3 league leading defense over to a head coach who only runs a 3-4, and then fired that coach and replaced him with a 4-3 guy. And they let the 4-3 guy (who has never developed a pro level qb) trade up for a project qb that a college OC who is known for running the ball will have to mold into an NFL success. Like all the interviews you want, and while I have nothing against Kim personally, it all starts at the top, and you can't convince me that a competitive search would not turn up a better candidate for the job. Edited May 3, 2018 by MURPHD6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I see her as a good influence on the organization. She killed that interview, I love Terry, but sometimes his interviews aren't half as good as hers. She is a farrrr better voice to be speaking then Terry. I trust her when she talks, Terry is nice and all but aloof as heck or at least seems that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, corta765 said: She is a farrrr better voice to be speaking then Terry. I trust her when she talks, Terry is nice and all but aloof as heck or at least seems that way. I think he's just not a good public speaker. IDK what Kim's college background was, but if you asked me after that interview I'd say she has a PHD in public relations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, corta765 said: She is a farrrr better voice to be speaking then Terry. I trust her when she talks, Terry is nice and all but aloof as heck or at least seems that way. It's a bad idea to correlate public speaking ability with intelligence, intuition, business acumen, etc. The man is a billionaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, eball said: It's a bad idea to correlate public speaking ability with intelligence, intuition, business acumen, etc. The man is a billionaire. By the same token there are a lotttt of rich people who are not necessarily the brightest. I don't doubt Terry isn't smart, but for a major sports org where everything is analyzed inside and out she comes off far better then he does. I am sure in the business world he is far more savy then her tenfold. Half of being a sports owner is PR relations and managing it correctly. She excels at that where he just isn't as strong. Edited May 3, 2018 by corta765 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, corta765 said: By the same token there are a lotttt of rich people who are not necessarily the brightest. I don't doubt Terry isn't smart, but for a major sports org where everything is analyzed inside and out she comes off far better then he does. I am sure in the business world he is far more savy then her tenfold. Half of being a sports owner is PR relations and managing it correctly. She excels at that where he just isn't as strong. I don't think you understand my point so I'm not going to continue the discussion. Yes, Kim comes across very well in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Not worried. After living through Ralph's era, nothing Kim can do could ever be any worse... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, MURPHD6 said: They handed a 4-3 league leading defense over to a head coach who only runs a 3-4, and then fired that coach and replaced him with a 4-3 guy. And they let the 4-3 guy (who has never developed a pro level qb) trade up for a project qb that a college OC who is known for running the ball will have to mold into an NFL success. Like all the interviews you want, and while I have nothing against Kim personally, it all starts at the top, and you can't convince me that a competitive search would not turn up a better candidate for the job. This is where they madena mistake. They were sold on the guy and not aware of the vision. I can hear Rex say that his defense is multiple and he can get more out of an already good unit. They listened to Brandon and paid deerly for it. Since Mcdermott and Beane I think the plan was always for Kim to become the more controling intrest of the two and president of both makes sense. Timing is never perfect. So what bettet way to get out infront of a probably sexual harresment story than to replace the man with a female minority? The pegulas seem smart enough to let people they hire to do their jobs, but in the beginning were too ignorant of the profression to know who to empower and what to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) We've witnessed the on field results of the Bills with Brandon in numerous positions of team building, he wasn't impressive in any way when doing that. So he was excellent at marketing. Want to know the best way to market a team ? Build a team that wins and makes the playoffs at least once in awhile . Edited May 3, 2018 by Ifartalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts