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Oil prices rallied Wednesday, with the U.S. benchmark settling at its highest since 2014 as domestic crude supplies notched their biggest weekly drop of the year so far.

Traders also showed concerns over U.S. threats to sanction countries that don’t stop importing oil from Iran by Nov. 4.

 

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-rises-as-traders-fret-over-potential-supply-worries-linked-to-iran-2018-06-27

 

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44 minutes ago, ALF said:

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BREAKING: OPEC+ panel proposes a cut of 2 million barrels a day to its output, as they seek to halt the slide in oil prices

Bad sleepy Joe energy policy creates reliance on OPEC. Dumbest President in history and the hits keep comin’ .

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15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Sanctions because of the war, and yes, we have had poor energy policy for decades 

The reason for the sanctions doesn't change the consequences and our current energy policy is in conflict with reality.  Pushing "green" solutions that cannot replace current conventional energy sources at this point in time.  But the fundamental problem is this administration operates like an 800 pound Gorilla.  Rather than promote cooperation and mutually beneficial relationships our foreign policy is based on threats, sanctions, and force.  What exactly gives our country the "right" to dictate to sovereign and independent nations, mostly democracies, who they can and can  not conduct business and trade?  Countries such as India.  Talk about interference, the US is King of foreign interference.  Biden isn't isolating Russia, he's isolating us.  And we're all going to suffer as a result.

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2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The reason for the sanctions doesn't change the consequences and our current energy policy is in conflict with reality.  Pushing "green" solutions that cannot replace current conventional energy sources at this point in time.  But the fundamental problem is this administration operates like an 800 pound Gorilla.  Rather than promote cooperation and mutually beneficial relationships our foreign policy is based on threats, sanctions, and force.  What exactly gives our country the "right" to dictate to sovereign and independent nations, mostly democracies, who they can and can  not conduct business and trade?  Countries such as India.  Talk about interference, the US is King of foreign interference.  Biden isn't isolating Russia, he's isolating us.  And we're all going to suffer as a result.

If we tried harder alternative energy would do more. 

 

Funny, do any Trumpers ever say anything bad about that evil monster Putin? Don't really see it

 

They know! 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

If we tried harder alternative energy would do more. 

 

Funny, do any Trumpers ever say anything bad about that evil monster Putin? Don't really see it

 

They know! 

On a unit for unit basis its too expensive and inefficient.  One gallon of gasoline produces 44 KW of energy.  An average solar panel produces 1.5 KW.  The US consumes about 9M barrels of gasoline per day.  That's about 16 billion KW of energy.  You need 29.3 solar panels to replace the output of one gallon of gas.  Multiply that out at 9M barrels at 42 gallons per barrel at 44 KW vs. a panel producing 1.5 KW and how many solar panels do you need to replace one days output of gasoline consumption?  Check my math but I get 11 billion solar panels.  Double or triple or quadruple the panel output.  Its still a very big number. 

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4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

On a unit for unit basis its too expensive and inefficient.  One gallon of gasoline produces 44 KW of energy.  An average solar panel produces 1.5 KW.  The US consumes about 9M barrels of gasoline per day.  That's about 16 billion KW of energy.  You need 29.3 solar panels to replace the output of one gallon of gas.  Multiply that out at 9M barrels at 42 gallons per barrel at 44 KW vs. a panel producing 1.5 KW and how many solar panels do you need to replace one days output of gasoline consumption?  Check my math but I get 11 billion solar panels.  Double or triple or quadruple the panel output.  Its still a very big number. 

Economy of scale will fix that 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

If we tried harder alternative energy would do more. 

 

Funny, do any Trumpers ever say anything bad about that evil monster Putin? Don't really see it

 

They know! 

 

We should be building nuke plants but we can't do that by the end of the year or even by the end of Biden's admin. Instead of building giant 1000 acre solar fields that use up really nice habitats we should be building nuke plants that take up maybe 2 percent the size.  Let's be green but do it the right way. Obama shut down the nuke waste storage facility because he was taking in all the solar money.  Nuke is the cleanest most efficent energy out there. Pump oil to bring down prices as well. keep solar panels only for the tops of peoples houses. 

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58 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

We should be building nuke plants but we can't do that by the end of the year or even by the end of Biden's admin. Instead of building giant 1000 acre solar fields that use up really nice habitats we should be building nuke plants that take up maybe 2 percent the size.  Let's be green but do it the right way. Obama shut down the nuke waste storage facility because he was taking in all the solar money.  Nuke is the cleanest most efficent energy out there. Pump oil to bring down prices as well. keep solar panels only for the tops of peoples houses. 

Well, they would take time to build, also. And they can be dangerous. @sherpa posted about an interesting company doing great things with energy production that seemed very interesting. 

 

 

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