PIZ Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Edited April 29, 2018 by PIZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Kiper gave only the Bills an A? WE ARE DOOMED!! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Thanks but I'm not giving ESPN clicks. Good to know we are approved by someone who is most notably wrong most of the time...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So, we like Mel now? LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 can't be I list to wgr all weekend , they must have received an f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Kiper was the conductor of the Josh Allen train. I’m sure he gave Carolina an A when they drafted Jimmy Clausen, his 4th favorite player in that draft. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/nfl/mel-kiper-said-hed-retire-2018-jimmy-clausen-wasnt-successful-nfl-qb-well.html Kiper is terrible. 6 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said: Thanks but I'm not giving ESPN clicks. Good to know we are approved by someone who is most notably wrong most of the time...lol ❄️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I'd rather have my team get an A from Kiper than an F. Regardless of your opinion on Kiper ( for years I thought the Bills FO would field a much better team if they just made the Kiper pick ) it must be stressed that these are preliminary draft grades. No one knows how these players will turn out. So the criteria are limited. Did the team address their needs? Did they get value for the player chosen in relation to where they were ranked ? Or did they reach ? So whether Allen was your personal favorite or not ( or Kipers) isn't relevant . These QBs were ranked fairly close together. So the Bills probably still get an A if they pick Rosen instead of Allen. They addressed their greatest need and didn't mortgage their future to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, PIZ said: .......Brylcream Mel is an entertaining clown.....as is Beiber (Gonna Shave Some Day) McShay........although my OPINION is that McBeane/McD/McDaboll did an "A" job in their very FIRST draft together, Mel's grade will be trashed by the TBD pundits because (1) it is Mel and (2) Allen was his guy from day one.....and there are other "A's" out there as well.... Edited April 29, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 If mel kiper was that bad at his job, he would have been fired years ago. He’s a talent evaluator. It’s literally impossible to get mock drafts 100% right. He knows more than all of us combined when it comes to evaluating talent. Yes he’s had some bad judgment (ahem jimmy clausen) but sometimes talent doesn’t follow you to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 come and see me in 1000 days and maybe by then we'll know. we did what we absolutely had to do. Get a top qb prospect and a LB. Can't wait to watch these new kids at camp. Watching Allen throw in person is quite impressive they say. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) Day-after grades are such a waste of ink. I guess we can thank the internet for only wasting electrons. All of these immediate post-draft grades are LOL ridiculous. The same "experts" who just issued pre-draft grades---without doing the same evaluations/tests/interviews as the teams themselves---compare what actually happened to what those "experts" said they would have done and then "grade" the teams on how much the teams agreed with them. Since Mel loves Allen and Edmunds and I guess likes Phillips, the Bills get an A for agreement. If the next "expert" hates Allen, Johnson, Neal and McCloud they get an F for agreement. Yada yada yada. Edited April 29, 2018 by Ennjay typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ennjay said: Day-after grades are such a waste of ink. I guess we can thank the internet for only wasting electrons. All of these immediate post-draft grades are LOL ridiculous. The same "experts" who just issued pre-draft grades---without doing the same evaluations/tests/interviews as the teams themselves---compare what actually happened to what those "experts" said they would have done and then "grade" the teams on how much the teams agreed with them. Since Mel loves Allen and Edmunds and I guess likes Phillips, the Bills get an A for agreement. If the next "expert" hates Allen, Johnson, Neal and McCloud they get an F for agreement. Yada yada yada. They are ridiculous if you think they are grading based on which players they like. That's not what's happening. There may be slight variations in ranking of prospects among Kiper, McShay , Ourlads etc but they're pretty close. Why wouldn't the Bills get an A for drafting Edmunds? He was a top ten player on virtually every known ranking. QBs were close too, so the Bills get an A whether they chose Rosen or Allen. The grading is based on the relation to the overall board and if the team filled holes. If you think it's a prediction of which players turn out best ( and it isn't ) , yes that would be silly. Edited April 29, 2018 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Dude, it's freakin' Mel Kiper! Puhleeze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouOQr8W12jo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: If mel kiper was that bad at his job, he would have been fired years ago. He’s a talent evaluator. It’s literally impossible to get mock drafts 100% right. He knows more than all of us combined when it comes to evaluating talent. Yes he’s had some bad judgment (ahem jimmy clausen) but sometimes talent doesn’t follow you to the NFL all sane people know this already maybe a few wager their farm or left pinky finger on him being perfect, I don't know.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Mel likes our draft scares the bejesus out of f me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Bag of Milk said: Kiper gave only the Bills an A? WE ARE DOOMED!! When was the last time Mel Kiper gave the Bills an A for their draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: If mel kiper was that bad at his job, he would have been fired years ago. He’s a talent evaluator. It’s literally impossible to get mock drafts 100% right. He knows more than all of us combined when it comes to evaluating talent. Yes he’s had some bad judgment (ahem jimmy clausen) but sometimes talent doesn’t follow you to the NFL I give him credit because he popularized a business. But he’s never worked/ played on any level of football. He’s never been offered a job in nfl front office because he would have been fired long ago. He has the best job because there is zero accountability. If he picked Jimmy Clausen at the top of the draft as a GM, he would have been fired. He loved Josh Allen and we picked him. So we got a good grease based on what Mel Kiper believes. It’s is essentially meaningless at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Kiper was the conductor of the Josh Allen train. I’m sure he gave Carolina an A when they drafted Jimmy Clausen, his 4th favorite player in that draft. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/nfl/mel-kiper-said-hed-retire-2018-jimmy-clausen-wasnt-successful-nfl-qb-well.html Kiper is terrible. ❄️ Agreed. Why isn't anyone reminding Kiper that his time is up? His kudos = the kiss of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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